Chisora vs Washington

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Potwash, Aug 9, 2023.


Who you got?

  1. Chisora - KO

    24 vote(s)
    53.3%
  2. Chisora - Points

    11 vote(s)
    24.4%
  3. Washington - KO

    6 vote(s)
    13.3%
  4. Washington - Points

    3 vote(s)
    6.7%
  5. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Problem for Washington is, is that his fitness is worse than Chisora's and he usually gasses at around round 5-6.

    If Washington's fitness and chin was better, than yeah, I'd give him a chance, but sadly fo him he is almost as bad as David Price in that area and doesn't have Price's power either.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chisora is the very definition of a journeyman.

    That’s different than a ‘professional opponent’ who is there to lose, trying only to not get stopped rather than to win.

    The thing is, for reasons many of us outside of the UK haven’t quite figured out, Chisora has been held up as some PPV-level attraction in his homeland while losing to most live opposition he’s ever faced. And keeps getting recycled.

    In America, he’s be regarded about like Jesse Ferguson was … useful guy to fight on your way up but that’s about it. But good ol’ Del Boy gets treated like he’s baby Jesus over there somehow no matter how many he loses. Heck, I’m surprised they didn’t keep this a PPV and make Chisora-Washington the main event.

    Parker’s kind of the same way. People act like beating him is an accomplishment despite the fact that basically everybody beats him.
     
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  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of wilders best opponents, who was beating Wilder, who lost multiple rounds untill Wilder caught him.

    Similar to Spzilka, Chirosa will make easier work of Washington than Wilder did.
     
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  4. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because he brings war.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s an odd and relatively recent phenomenon that there’s been a shift in how people look at knockouts — to some, apparently, what matters most is what the scorecards were before the stoppage and the KO itself is dismissed.

    Ray Leonard was hailed for coming from behind to stop Thomas Hearns. Rocky Marciano isn’t vilified for trailing Joe Walcott before icing him, nor for being on the verge of being stopped by Ezzard Charles before doing the same. Nor Joe Louis for his troubles with Billy Conn before the rally, Archie Moore for being battered by Durelle or basically Matthew Saad Muhammad’s entire title reign.

    In all those cases (and dozens upon dozens more I could cite), the focus is on the resilience and willpower of the guy who was trailing being able to put all that aside and rise to the occasion to deliver a decisive ending. Now, with Wilder at least, it’s ‘forget about who won, forget about the knockout, let’s look at this as if it had actually gone to a decision.’

    To me, this is what makes boxing great. A team falls behind 42-0 in a football game in the first half and it’s over. A boxer can lose every minute of every round and deliver a knockout blow and he wins … which is all that matters. I’ve even seen many argue that a KO loss is worse than a decision loss — yet when a certain guy is merely behind on the scorecards it’s as if he lost to some.

    It’s perplexing to say the least.
     
  6. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to watch Chisora years ago on Eurosport stinking the place out for a few grand.....

    How him and Whyte earned the ppv bag just shows how good Hearn is at hoodwinked the casuals...
     
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  7. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The difference there is you mention past ATG’s coming from behind and knocking out other ATG’s. With Wilder he was going life and death with fringe journeymen before pulling the trigger. That’s the difference.
     
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  8. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    looking forward to the ceremonial Five Guys (TM) shared post fight burger
     
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  9. SaintDave

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    Nice simple knock over job for Chisora this, even at his current declined level. Washington will do a Molina the first time he gets hit and crumble like a jenga tower.

    If Chisora wants to hang around for longer I'd prefer to see him as a measuring stick for the upcoming British heavyweights like Clarke, Wardley etc.
     
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  10. Maximum MARIUSZ

    Maximum MARIUSZ Member banned Full Member

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    Washington 41 years , was in prime not when boxer but American football player.
     
  11. Gregor1987

    Gregor1987 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Washington looked in unreal shape at the weigh in. He obviously still trains hard and we know Chisora only has the tank to bring “WAR” fully now for a couple of rounds before gassing.
     
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  12. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    to be fair, that’s every American hevyweight nowdays
     
  13. kevinreid001

    kevinreid001 Punchdrunk101 Full Member

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    Its ok though Joshua Is fighting Helenius lol.
     
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  14. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Sure buddy. Sure.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Life and death" implies they were landing plenty or doing damage; they weren't and they weren't ahead on the scorecards either. It also fooled other Wilder opponents into thinking they could outpoint him, which didn't work out well for any of them.