Hagler vs everyone between Walker and Zale?

Until we can find away to see any of those boxers fight , and not just on opinions of writers that may have been long dead before Hagler was born, I take Hagler to Destruct and Destroy them all..... Including Walker.

 

Take a look at Steele here -

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And here -

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I'm not saying we should pick him to beat Hagler on the basis of this (and other) footage, but he looks pretty good to me.

 

Good stuff..... But is enough to really get a real feel for Steele? Maybe I should've wrote enough film , not just a few minutes of highlights to have a real opinion on them.
Highlights can turn Howard Davis Jr. Into Ray Robinson.......
But I can see from the film you introduced he moved his head well though he stood tall, and that's rare. But his opponent wasn't that great, so it's hard to tell.

 

A "feel" for him, when combined with the other footage of him available on YouTube? Yes, I think so. Obviously not as firm an impression as modern fights, whose whole careers are available in full HD colour.

Vince Dundee was a fine MW. He may have been past his absolute best by the time of the Steele fight, but in the 12-months prior to it he had beaten Babe Risko and Paul Pirrone, whilst he took the wonderful Teddy Yarosz to an SD. Even 2 years later, he extended the great Billy Conn the full 10 in a close fight. Yet, as you could see, Steele destroyed him in 3 x very one-sided rounds.

Steele only lost 2 of his opening 133 x fights. I rank him #8 all time at MW, Hagler #3. Those rankings are purely based on what they achieved in their own eras, discounting H2H in cross era fantasy fights, which, for some of the reasons you've alluded to, involves too many unknown variables for me and isn't always comparing like for like.

 

How are we supposed to pick without knowing the conditions of the fight?

As we learned from the Leonard fight:

* Marvin can only fight well if the ring is just the right size … not too big, not too small.

* Marvin really can’t be expected to perform with 10-ounce gloves. Only eights. So if these guys fought in an era where the gloves were too small, or if someone negotiated for tens … Marvin cannot be held to whatever result that may yield.

* Marvin just isn’t into 12-round fights. He needs to be able to give away the first four rounds or so to perform at his best. I doubt he’d be up for 20 rounds either. It has to be 15 … just right (even though he hadn’t fought a scheduled 15-rounder for 2 1/2 years when he fought Leonard).

Marvin only fights his best under perfect conditions suited specifically to his likes and constitution. He also requires M&Ms in his dressing room with all the green ones removed, green tea extracted by hand from Camellia sinensis leaves picked by virgins and arena temperature set precisely at 71.5 degrees.

 

That's funny... Are you insinuating some make excuses for the "Marvelous " one?

 

Steele gives any middleweight including Hagler serious trouble

 

JOCK McAVOY is in that mix, he sparked out Risko and before that even, he was in the States in hope of MW Title opportunities, winning 2 contest, one of which was against the L-HW cum HW, Al McCoy...

Then of course he did the 15 Round dance with the ATG John Henry Lewis.

Yes, McAvoy is in that list.

 

Ha! You made me laugh.