What Really Happened (Anthony Joshua vs Robert Helenius)

Load of tosh

What happens when he's fighting someone who won't sit on the ropes open to a right hand?

Exactly. Or will SMASH you with a right hand of his own out of the gate.

Always was a big plodding bodybuilder bum and always will be.

He has to jump on Wilder to be able to beat him yet wasn't willing to fight with such a plan against Helenius? Loser is getting chinned.

He has no balls it's that simple & legit heavyweights have BIG BALLS.

Wilder AJ isn't a physical or even a skill battle it's a mentality battle and unless Wilder has a Fury 2 style panic attack he will KO AJ.

 

AJ can beat Wilder but I'd favor Wilder in a fight. Some boxing experts (idiots, imho) say AJ has to be perfect to beat Wilder. Complete nonsense. Wilder is a windmilling moron with an elite right hand...that's it. AJ just needs to move forward while going to his right...literally all he has to do. Work off a hard jab and some lead hooks or even lead right hands, but keep moving to his right and forward. If AJ does go to his left he needs to get low w a high guard and quickly close the distance.

Wilder canNOT fight off the backfoot and has a weak jab w a weak left hook. Also, no uppercut. It's literally just an elite straight right/overhand right. Very beatable.

AJ is kinda chinny himself and is mentally fragile but he *COULD* beat Wilder. Whether he's able to put it all together for 12 whole rounds who knows...but if he stays low to his left w high guard and moves forward to his right with high output...his power is serious too. And Wilder is chinny himself...

 

He knocked out an opponent who was already known not to be able to take a punch and who was put to sleep by Wilder in the first round, Joshua showed no progress...

 

Shameless how the same people who 4 years ago were positive wilder gets totally exposed by AJ and dominated are now positive that Wilder walks through AJ.

None of you know what's gonna happen when AJ fights Wilder... stop it.

How can a group of people be wrong so often yet be so consistently confident in the inevitability of their predictions?

 

Joshua is too soft for Wilder, Wilder, after sending Helenius to the canvas, could dismantle Franklin in the same evening.

 

He doesnt even need head movement. Simple upper body movement can do it. Wilder's success has only exposed how weak HW is. Either Klit sleeps Wilder. I'd favor a younger Usyk over Wilder and I'd give a narrow edge to Usyk today.

People big up Wilder way more than deserved. A true gem of propaganda by PBC shills...goddamn cult imo

 

Why's it shameless?

I think we can see Joshua has become a timid fighter. Just on last nights performance. Fair play to Helenius for stepping up and he started off well behind the jab, but Joshua could and probably should have put him away sooner than the 7th round. Helenius is there to be hit and has no punch resistance.

Helenius did catch Joshua with a right hand a few times. What's going to happen when Wilder does? He puts everything into those right hands.

I think that's why people are now going for a Wilder win. He can't beat Joshua on points over 12 rounds and he'll try and get that right hand home early.

I think its fair that people have changed their opinion.

 

Obviously the way you phrase it is reasonable. Yes AJ looked invincible for a time and wilder has glaring defensive holes.

What's shameless is people who were like

"WILDER IS TOTAL GARBAGE AJ WILL EXPOSE HIM THIS IS A FACT"

and are now saying

"AJ IS A FRAUD WILDER WILL KO HIM IN ONE THIS IS A FACT"

Changing ones opinion is good. Always stating ones opinion as some immutable certainty that is obvious to anyone as intelligent as them even when many of ones previous opinions have proven, time and again, that you never really know in this game, is shameless.

 

I agree with what your saying actually but I find that most people are sheep and repeat what others have said. They tend to go where the wind blows. Today a boxer is a world beater, tomorrow that boxer was a hypejob. We saw that recently with Spence. In that regards it is shameless.

 

Yeah exactly

 

This just underscores Wilder’s flaws:

1. Lacks the patience to spend seven rounds setting up the KO punch and foolishly knocking Helenius out in one.

2. Unwilling to let Helenius bust up his face for six rounds and change before lowering the boom.

3. Cagily signing to fight Helenius far enough in advance to allow Robert to have a full training camp (without a fight a week before) so he could calculate Helenius’ moves … whereas AJ bravely fought Helenius on short notice stepping straight from one ring into another with hardly a moment to catch his breath, making him unpredictable.

4. Wilder allowed Helenius to look at him at the weigh-in without comment, clearly giving Robert the mental edge instead of asking whether Robert had a problem with him.

 

" Often wrong, never in doubt " Can't remember where I heard it. The more ignorant you are on a certain subject, the more sure you are of your opinion and vice versa. It's one of the curses of the human race, another being selective amnesia.