The Inoue vs Crawford P4P debate has made me realize that "context" does not matter. Rant

Great movie!

 

They are meaningless. Doesn't mean I don't understand them

 

One of the greatest.

 

One of my favorite movies of all time.

 

How does Jermell's resume compare to Bud's? Who fought better competition in their careers? The answer to that could come down to how you rate Spence. Before Bud fought Spence, has Bud ever fought fighters as good as Lubin, Trout, Harrison or Castaño? And how does post car crash Spence compare to those guys?

 

I am going to stick my nose into this a little bit. I believe that, at least related to Harrison and Castano, you have it backwards. The only truly good wins they have are over Charlo. They fact they beat Charlo makes him rate worse it does not make them rate better.

 

I agree a lot with your entire post.

But when you say Crawford is a tremendous fighter it contradicts the facts you have laid out. He has not, among some of those other fighters, demonstrated high level skill and ability against a top level healthy prime opponent. So to be honest, we don’t know how good he is.

Well we can approximate some things like his vulnerabilities - being outboxed by edge of retirement Shawn Porter, getting dropped by Kavalauskias etc.

I think by saying he is a ‘tremendous fighter’ is in ways appeasing those fanboys who don’t even take into account the context even when you lay out the obvious in front of them. It downplays the very good points you’ve made about how context matters.

It seems for the so called ‘boxing fan’ if one highly ranked fighter (whether worthy of that ranking or not) gets beat, the winner gets praised no matter the condition of the opponent. This is frankly dumb as ****

 

Rigondeaux was hailed as the greatest fighter of the lower weights and was being put on p4p lists when he beat Donaire. Rigondeaux shocked the boxing world with that win. Don't rewrite history.

 

He hasn't done as much as Inoue has.

 

Come on Jokey, everybody up on you bruh.