David Haye (2009) Vs Anthony Joshua (2019 unbeaten) who wins??

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  1. lepinthehood

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    Favour Joshua by KO in a good fight.
     
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  2. lepinthehood

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    Hayes best win was either Valuev or Chisora at heavyweight. Neither are that good.
     
  3. Redbeard7

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    "Vitali never lost properly"

    Being injury prone and quitting after 9 rounds having failed to put a dent in a "crap" blown up LHW (while injuring yourself from missing so much) is "losing properly".

    Having 6 rounds to KO Lewis (who got one-punched in 2-4 rounds by "crap" boxers crackhead McCall and 8 years boxing Rahman) and then being stopped against his will is less conclusive and more excusable but it's still a loss on the record and certainly not a win.

    Aside from that he beat a load of crap, with "crap" Chisora probably being his best win (his 3rd toughest and most competitive fight).

    Crap.
     
  4. Ex Army Jim 39

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    you cant help the era your in bud fury would be nothing in the 90s would he none of these blokes would
     
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  5. Redbeard7

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    These are just excuses to fluff Vitali, who fought far weaker opposition than Wlad, Vitali's WBC reign was even weaker than Wilder's. Early-mid 40's versions of Holmes and Foreman were still players in the 90's so by that standard no one today or then would do anything in the 70's but that's not the pattern when measured objectively in any sport.
     
  6. Ex Army Jim 39

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    every argument is to big up fury every thread thats the final goal for you big up fury by any means nesessary fury would of been knocked out by vitali and many others the more I think of it the more it think rahman would of knocked him out the folk on here are educating me I used to think fury would beat lewis but he wouldnt would he lewis is to good
     
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  7. Redbeard7

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    "fury would of been knocked out by vitali"

    Vitali couldn't KO Timo Hoffmann lmao, who incidentally was the best super-heavy he beat. Couldn't put a dent in Byrd before he quit in 9 and was made to look silly by Kevin static on the ropes for 12 rounds. 0% chance he KO's Fury.

    "the more I think of it the more it think rahman would of knocked him out"

    "the folk on here are educating me"

    Evidently not very well!
     
  8. Ex Army Jim 39

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    super heavy is amateur weight division mate its not in pros and you are going on like you know what your on about you started of well and not falling down vitali was awesome n has higher ko ratio then fury thats a fact
     
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  9. Ex Army Jim 39

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    if fury was that good why did he duck usyk answer that vitali is bigger better stronger then usyk
     
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  10. Redbeard7

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    Super-heavy is a colloquial term for very tall and heavy heavyweights, 6'5, 240+ or thereabouts. The fact that Sprott-victim Hoffmann was the best that Vitali beat (and that Vitali couldn't drop or stop him over 12) says a lot about his record and abilities.

    Vitali turned pro at 25 with 210 amateur bouts and a kickboxing career before that. He then fought a load of bums prior to the Byrd quitjob (or Hide, who had a notoriously weak chin). His high stoppage ratio (higher than much harder punchers Lewis and Wlad) is indicative of the relatively low level of his opposition. Any domestic level heavy who didn't come to lie down went 8 rounds or more with Vitali, hence the Danny Williams and Sosnowski results, the Kevin and Briggs 12 round decisions with 0 KD's etc.
     
  11. Ex Army Jim 39

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    vitali has highest ko ratio in heavyweight history or he did he must be behind wilder he battered danny williams it was hard to watch he nearly killed him Kos dont come just from power they come from other stuff aggression intent number of punches vitali would of beat the breaks of Tyson Fury as fury is to slow and he has never been fit its a terrible match for him

    youve still no answered why fury ducked usyk
     
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  12. Redbeard7

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    "Kos dont come just from power they come from other stuff aggression intent number of punches"

    Vitali needed 8 or 10 rounds to KO domestic level guys, couldn't do anything with Byrd and quit, couldn't stop domestic level SHW Hoffmann over 12, couldn't put a dent in Lewis over 6, couldn't stop Kevin, Briggs, Chisora.

    0% chance. Vitali wouldn't be able to land much on Fury and he wouldn't do much damage if he did. He's slower than Fury, 5 inches less reach, more hittable, less co-ordinated and far less versatile. It can be seen comparing their fights with Kevin and Chisora, night and day. The only one who might get stopped is Vitali on an injury, otherwise he loses a wide decision like his more skilled, athletic, healthy, powerful and experienced brother.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...6-poland-tnt-ppv.706056/page-13#post-22473445
     
  13. Ex Army Jim 39

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    your on another level when your begging up fury you say vitali couldnt ko x y and z what about fury he couldnt ko pianeta Kevin Johnson himself lol mcdermott he was domestic level couldnt ko the same Chisora vitali who was 41 couldnt ko what about page he couldnt ko him the man has been kod 5 times

    your still ignoring fury ducking usyk
     
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  14. Beale

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    You ask Lewis about Vitali and his eyes light up with respect.
     
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  15. Ex Army Jim 39

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    two of greatest t to ever lace em up real fighting men no like fury ducking usyk
     
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