Crawford is not on the same level as a Canelo

You are bending my words. I never said he was a total puss I rate him highly as a fighter I just think that Crawford is special. Canelo was juiced against GGG and still got his ass beat twice. I think that Postol is a very underrated fighter he gave Josh Taylor one of his career hardest fights after losing to Crawford.

 

It can be easy to look good but not easy to look special. I have already conceded that Canelo has the better resume. The first fight with GGG was not close IMO it was 8-4 maybe 9-3 for GGG. You were high on Jeff Horn who was a big 147 and Crawford took him apart quite easily. Sometimes the eye test means more than resume. Crawford's two best wins were Spence and Porter and I think he looked great in both of those fights. I think with Crawford he enjoys a dog fight and sometimes that has made him look not as good as he really is but he always gets the job done.

 

You know something you make some very valid points I always said that Canelo is a special fighter but he has too many questionable decisions but here's my question to you let's say you may Crawford a natural middleweight do you see Crawford beating that version of triple G?

 

That is a good question. I hold GGG in the same regard as Crawford he was a special fighter in his prime. I went back and studied GGG after the Canelo robbery I didn't appreciate him enough in his prime. I think that if anybody could beat Crawford it would be someone like a prime GGG.

 

Bivol beat Gingers ass like a red headed step child LOL He deserved more $$$$$$$$$ 60/40 to Bivol

 

Exactly. Dudes card was pulled. Only a pathetic man like El would support that. Even if the guy was one of your boys most normal dude's would be like "sorry buddy you got your card pulled you should've manned up"

 

Plenty had Crawford down you fool

 

go watch the fight again......its possible he coulda been down 3-1, i had it 2-2. from 5 on it was all crawford. It wasnt even close.

 

If he really didn't believe me and just thought it was clout chasing why wouldn't he just say yes to a one on one spar and call the bluff instead of adding in stipulations and death threats? LMAO

 

Alright Chris, I don’t have much of a dog in this fight, but given your extensive boxing knowledge I think you don’t truly believe half of what you just wrote; it’s gotta be more of a “provoke MidniteProwler” thing going on.
At age 23 Clenelo had already been a pro for 8 years with close to a 40-0 record, so it’s not like he was a cherry when he fought Floyd. Mayweather may have been the #1 PFP fighter but he was incapable of hurting Alvarez. Not only could he not hurt Saul, he provided a massive payday. Of course Alvarez lunged at that one-in-a-billion opportunity.
Do you know when he didn’t lunge? After he won the lineal middleweight championship from Cotto and blatantly ducked Golovkin for 2 years. Two undefeated men, both with iron chins who’d never been down in a fight, and for all 4 belts and the lineal title on the line in a fight that had hardcore and casual fans alike drooling. And how did “The Face of Boxing” respond? He gave up his WBC belt and said he wasn’t a middleweight; nobody could make him fight someone he didn’t want to and that his body would tell him when he was ready to be a middleweight. It was a b!tch move that made Riddick Bowe look like Captain Courageous when he ducked Lewis. Then to prepare for GGG, he fights Amir Khan…at 155lbs! Then to prove his point he fights Chavez at 163!
Laying aside the ridiculous “Draw” in the first GGG fight, the subsequent positive PED tests prior to the rematch and bad but not quite as outrageous decision, his fight with Bivol and ensuing humiliation appeared to be a cherry pick gone wrong, similar to Wilder vs Fury 1, rather than a “dare to be great” moment. Between Beterbiev, Joe Smith and Bivol, Dimitry appeared to be the safest bet.
Clenelo is an overall fine fighter, maybe comparable to Miguel Cotto but with a lesser gas tank and greater chin, but a marketing and hype machine backing him that portray him as a mix between Ali and JCC.

 

I think GGG has a stylistic edge vs a MW Crawford; to beat a prime GGG you need to be able to take his power even if your skills are top notch, and I don't know if Crawford has the chin for this. That being said I wouldn't be confident either way.

I think Crawford would have done considerably better against Canelo though, due to the stylistic match-up. He would just frustrate and out box him. The only reason I pick Canelo in that fight is the weight difference.

 

Having a head hard enough to survive and make it to the cards for gift decisions doesn't catapult Canelo to a different skill level; it just means that he has a ridiculously hard head.

His hard head didn't bother Floyd, who punched him in the face repeatedly and danced to a 10-2 win.

Amir Khan took four rounds off of a fresher Canelo, but lacked the IQ/chin to sustain his success.

If Bud gets himself into a firefight, he gets knocked out... but is that really the discussion being had here? Why would Bud approach the fight in that way?

I suspect that Bud is better than Trout and Lara. I suspect that he would do much better than Khan, and he wouldn't even need to be as good as Mayweather was to take 7 rounds.

I only question whether 7 rounds is enough to get a decision against Canelo...