David Haye (2009) Vs Anthony Joshua (2019 unbeaten) who wins??

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  1. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    redbird likes it his way doesnt answer questions about fury ducking usyk lol
     
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  2. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where is the popcorn emoji
     
  3. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still shudder when I see that Lewis uppercut landing on Vitali.

    Imagine that punch landing on Fury or Joshua?

    Two elite warriors yet Mr Ginger Beard rates Joshua on same level.

    Sensational
     
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  4. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crazy how somebody retiring for good he classes as a duck and being paid millions to step aside is also classed as a duck and yet he makes every excuse for Fury who has “retired” multiple times and is peking and waddling around with webbed feet.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that's the case it's a very recent phenomenon; Lewis was notoriously prickly and insecure about the situation for years. It makes sense though because at the time the win was very controversial but the further we are removed from events the less people care about the details and the more nostalgia takes over. "TKO6" became the gift that kept on giving.
     
  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    God you're dense.

    A fighter who turns pro at 25 with 210 amateur boxing bouts plus a kickboxing career before that is going to find it much easier to stop opponents early in his pro career, other things being equal, than a fighter who turns pro at 20 with 35 amateur bouts. Engage brain.

    Fury is also much cannier than Vitali and will play possum. As if he couldn't stop Pianeta (who Kevin had stopped in 7), that was a glorified exhibition to fool Wilder first and foremost, lull him into a false sense of security.

    And I never claimed, against evidence, that Fury would probably KO Vitali (although he'd have a better chance due to Vitali being injury prone and quit prone), whereas you moronically claimed that Vitali would KO Fury.

    Stopping Arreola in 10 via the towel coming in against his will after landing dozens or hundreds of punches on his head, or Larry Donald in 10, or not dropping and going the distance with Hoffmann, Kevin, Briggs etc. equates to having next to zero chance of stopping Fury. Being stopped by Byrd on the other hand...

    "your still ignoring fury ducking usyk"

    I've replied to that with a link to a post.
     
  7. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All I am seeing is your and Jim’s posts so I presume it’s that twat redbeard that I put on ignore months ago. A wise choice methinks.
     
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  8. Ex Army Jim 39

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    vitali failed to stop only a few blokes and he could of stopped them all and some of them he was old and it was past the knee injury he was a tremendous fighter he is another league to fury he was always fit to fury is a fat **** vitali would of had him blowing a gasket in fact I would take a 60 year old vitali to beat fury even just a few year after he retires his body will be in tatters
     
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  9. Redbeard7

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    "he could of stopped them all"

    If you can't drop or stop Hoffmann, Kevin and Briggs, need 8-10 rounds of pummelling to get rid of Williams and Sosnowski and fail to put a dent in Byrd and Lewis before losing, you're not a serious KO threat to elite fighters (fighters significantly better than Donald and Bean) and you're never stopping Fury or Usyk.

    "he was a tremendous fighter"

    By your own logic he only beat crap fighters and lost whenever he didn't (once to a crap fighter via quitjob). That sounds crap.

    "a 60 year old vitali"

    Morons were fantasising that Vitali would come out of retirement and beat Fury after he schooled Wlad. You've got no understanding of the sport whatsoever.
     
  10. Ex Army Jim 39

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    your ignoring the folk fury didnt stop your saying theres context to that but no context to vitali your a fan boy mate youve been outted
     
  11. Ex Army Jim 39

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    red beard the proof your a prat is when you constantly argue not once have I ever seen you say you know what mate you might be right thats a good point never thought of that or changed your position theres folk on the forum here who think changing your mind on something is a weakness it shows there thick well you should think about that ive just schooled you
     
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  12. Redbeard7

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    I never claimed that Fury would stop Vitali so it's irrelevant, although it's more likely than the other way round as Vitali got stopped twice.
     
  13. Ex Army Jim 39

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    you talk about context when it suits you mate vitali never got stopped in normal sense he pulled it cos he wanted his career to be ok then the doctor stopped due to eye he wanted to continue if it was out on cobbles he would of been there fighting he was never once put down in his career his whiskers are not in question if your really desperate youll bring up the fella knocking him out with a kick which is totally different and in a different sport lol fury has been down and rocked by plenty of boxers mate you are biggest fan boy on the board in my humble view
     
  14. Guru88

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    I think Haye gets off to a good start and hurts AJ at some point but the old Joshua would’ve been to big and powerful for him, Haye wasn’t even a big cruiser, Joshua stops him
     
  15. jimmyonebomb

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    I think prime hay was fast and powerful enough to catch Joshua coming in and drop him, then finish him with a follow up.

    Don't think the wladimir klistschko situation would play out, wlad was much smarter and more cautious than Joshua and better at boxing on the back foot, Joshua couldn't do that to haye. Can also see a situation were old school Joshua catches haye and overpowers him, just favour the former option. Would've been a decent fight