don Charles fantastic british trainer

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  1. bobbobbington

    bobbobbington New Member Full Member

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    So you can belittle the achivements of a former British world champion, Joshua, at every possible opportunity to a point were it feels more like a personal vendetta than any attempt at objective analysis and that is fine. However, I suggest that you cannot claim a trainer who never had a fighter come close to a world title cannot be regarded as world class and I am a disgrace? Explain that logic. If Dubois wins that changes the material facts, so yes I will change my opinion of Charles at that point. In the event Usyk completely outboxes him will you adjust your opinion. When the facts change I change my opinion, what do you do?
     
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  2. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    you seem to know alot about me eh wonder how that is eh bob
     
  3. Cookiedough

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    We’ll see. It’s not impossible but highly unlikely Dubois will come anywhere near to beating Usyk. You can guess and hope but I haven’t seen any evidence prior to this bout that Daniel can win.
    Usyk will need to have a really off night for Daniel to come anywhere near beating him.
     
  4. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have this fight 70/30 in Usyks favor. Always a chance he’s aged overnight or Dubois lands a punch from the heavens. If that does happen Dubois v Fury will be signed within the week.
     
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    TED 822 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. Thought that myself. But I can't think of any other examples. Good result for Shane was against his previous fighter Okolie who I thought would win that one comfortably. His first loss. One of the top trainers in the country, they're all around the same at the top.
    But Jim has a point. Can't put my finger on it but there's a confidence about the whole camp, plus Warren seems confident in Daniel also. Having said that it's still an uphill battle. But I want to see that old guard change so let youth, and size prevail, hopefully.
    Same. I wondered if his son will be on the undercard. Heard anything yourself mate?
     
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    TED 822 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting. Ive got it 90 to 10 for Usyk. Massive ask. But not impossible. Obviously there's the age but he didn't show it in the last two but the overnight factor hopefully still there.
    Last but massively disagree. AGAINST is I think Fury is winding his career down and no longer wants to train for any fight he might just lose. FOR is that Warren will try to make it. But Dubois will likely take the rest of this year off and take an easier first defence around March next year.
     
  7. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Watched a yt vid today, made the the hameds. Aadam said he was co main event
     
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    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    be sure mate when dubois clubs usyks head of into the crowd a certain crowd will say hes aged overnight lol
     
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    I think the parting ways is more linked to his family robbing them and spending their money on things such as underwear for Mrs Mcguigan. You know the Mcguigans are dodgy when people leave them for narco terrorists.....
     
  10. Goober

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    Dubious dubois will need to put in a much better performance than we've seen from him before Jim if he wants to beat Usyk look at the trouble lerena caused him early on
     
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    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    did dubois have don Charles in his corner bud i dont think so wasnt it mcguigan
     
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    iamthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As far as I'm aware, he's retired. Hasn't fought since 2021 and is listed as 'inactive' on boxer.
     
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  13. Goober

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    didn't know that if Don helps him to beat Usyk then he'll have done a great job
     
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    I just hope Dubois doesn't shatter his knees diving to canvas when the going gets tough
     
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    I hope that happens and im tipping if it does somebody will start a thread on most underrated trainer. And guess who gets mentioned most?
     
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