James Ali Bashir claims Usyk would’ve beat Holyfield easy

Even Fields did PEDs. No comparison, here.

 

I agree with Bashir about the techniques that are being lost. But his views on Holy-Usyk are ridiculous.

Evander was in his 40's when he fought Toney, Byrd & Donald, and had been in many wars. To base a mythical matchup on the opposing boxer's worst performances is asinine. Period.

Holyfield KO'd 14 of his 18 opponents at CW.

Usyk would've been KO #15.

 

and at HW, he gets KO'd by Holy.

He was just too great for Usyk.

 

Dude likely knows more about the sport than i do, but based on having watched them both fight various times? Nahhhh

 

No doubt, gotta give the man respect - 55 years in the boxing biz, he's earned the right to have his opinions taken seriously.

I think Usyk is awesome and has had a fantastic career. He always comes in shape & ready. I'm not too impressed with most of his opposition throughout the years.

Holy has been in there with so many great fighters, there's just no comparison.

 

You do realise that Usyk is closing on a total of some 450 fights amateur and pro combined, right?

 

Hunter, a difficult fight for Usyk? In which universe? Usyk practically KOd him, I don’t know what was wrong with that ref to let Usyk batter an exhausted Hunter unable to defend himself like that at the end of the fight.

 

Usyk v Holyfield is another one of those fantasy match ups that are very popular on here and so should be treat for what it is,which is simply another fantasy match up !

 

His ped use comes up in every thread he's mentioned in. How is that a "pass?"

 

Professional fights are totally different to Amateur fights, Holyfield in 80s was fighting 15 round war vs Qawi where he lost 14 pounds of fluids, had another brutal war in 80s vs Dokes. Not too mention his countless tough fights in 90s vs Foreman, Bowe x2, Mercer, Cooper, Foreman, etc.

I think bringing up losses when Holyfield is over the age of 40 after countless wars is unfair, as I said put Usyk in same position over the age of 40 fighting tough opposition and see how he fares.

 

Evander is one of few that I always rooted for, and you're right it's truly a shame that he did that. It casts a terrible pall over his career.

I often wonder what would've happened if he did it naturally? How much of that incredible heart was a result of peds? It breaks my heart because he was always a warrior that gave us many memorable matches.

 

Sometimes this forum really makes me shake my head.