Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Usyk Was Hit Low, Ref Made The Right Call! Dump Thread.

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  1. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take a look at this screenshot to understand where the punch impacted :

    https://i.imgur.com/PPUOwQT.jpeg

    From this view, you can see the part of the glove that impacts the belt-line because you can observed the part of the glove that lands compresses (the left screenshot) then decompresses (the right screenshot). From this view, the center of his glove connects with the upper part of the belt-line and surrounds the belly button at impact. The punch lands directly into his stomach.

    The other view, from the right side of Dubois, shows the curved outside of the glove, that part of the glove does not impact the belt-line. It's the inner top part of the glove that connects and compresses into the belt-line as seen from the attached screenshot in this post.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah that explain a lot. You are used to dirty cheaters.
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    Clear lowblow.
    Same with Ward shots.
    Not a single part of the punch is on the body. Hitting the shirts with the whole glove is a clear lowblow. You have to contact clearly with the skin, simple as that.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. People think that lowblow literally means nutt shot, and if it above that, it's fine. But the rules is different, and it's different for a reason. That lower part of the abdominal is super sensitive, a lot of nerves in there, and you are not allow to hit below the belly button, and that shot was clear as day below.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    look at this screenshot :

    https://i.imgur.com/PPUOwQT.jpeg

    Tell me what you see. Describe where that is landing.

    Forget the other angle showing the curved outside of the glove. That's not the part of the glove that lands.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What i'm seeing is that you are ignored for obvious reasons. One of the most biased person on here. Zero chance to have any discussion with you. A guy claiming that shoulder punch count, when your hero was send to school and claiming Canelo was robbed against Bivol, just seal the deal for me.

    And this screenshot is after the initial shot is landed, and it doesn't show the actual angle of the punch landed, this is a side shot, that you can't see clear. That was uppercut coming from down, going up, explained easy so a kid should understand it.
    There is a clear video proof that i posted, cause picture is very lying and easy to manipulate, aka initial contact, and when the punch is already landed, etc.

    Again:
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    I already gave you more time than you deserve, back to the ignore.

    And again a clear picture from the right front angle, where it's clear where the initial shot LANDED:
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    Clear lowblow, not even a contact with the skin, clear below the belly button > automatically lowblow.

    Rules should be followed and every single foul should be called, just like it's in the UFC.
    Otherwise Boxing is becoming a joke.
    I know you hate Usyk with a passion, and believe that your hero should be infront of him in the P4P, but chill. Usyk won. There is a referee there for a reason, isn't that what you always said, when your boy cheats, and they gift him the victory on the scorecards?

    I already gave you more time than you deserve, back to the ignore.
     
  7. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're not dealing with reality. I asked you to look at the screenshot I put together and tell me what you see showing the impact of the glove with the belt-line. You refused to do so. I have addressed your screenshot showing the other side and the curved outside of the glove that you and others are using to claim it was low. It's very clear that your screenshot is of the curved outside of the glove which is not what connects, the area that connects is clearly seen from my screenshots as you can see the part of the glove that compresses / decompresses upon impact - the left screenshot is the top/inside part of the glove compressed on impact, and the right screenshot shows it decompressed after it lands. Your single screenshot is of the curved outside of the glove which is not what impacts the belt-line.
     
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  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think it's a common sense that you have to connect with the skin, in order to do a "body" shot.
    Dubois whole Glove and connection was on Usyk trunks/shorts.
    Clear lowblow.
     
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  10. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Derek looking good. He says Dubois wanted to fight cute and that was dumb. He also adds that Usyk will change how he fights when he faces Fury.

    Chisora part starts at 2:45

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  11. shadow111

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    LOL no, again, the belt-line is legal. Where that punch landed from the screenshot I posted is the inside/top of the glove connecting with the upper part of the belt-line surrounding the belly button directly into the stomach. The top part of his glove from my left screenshot (glove compressed upon impact) is in contact with skin above the belt-line.
     
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  12. HEADBANGER

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    Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows they put too much political pressure on this fight being the big home coming for Ukraines national hero.

    If that fight was in Britain or America then you are waking up to a new world champion this morning. The referee not deducting a point says everything, he knew it wasnt really low.

    What did make me laugh was right at the start of round 9, Dubois landed another perfectly placed body punch and Usyk complained to the ref and the ref came in to halt the action again, utterly laughable, I think if Usyk fights in Poland again, then the public and his opponent should be made aware before the fight that Usyk is not allowed to be punched below the sternum to save the confusion.
     
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    @shadow111 is making you look foolish, here
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Go get some help bro. And flat earthers like you should not talk about reality. You are the most laughable poster on here for a reason. Plenty of people have you on ignore for obvious reason.

    You can't even comprehend a basics punch mechanics and how a uppercut moves.
    And my screenshot is clear as day, decompressed your ***. There is a clear video as well, that you can't manipulate. It's where the punch connect that is matter. Which is clear way below.

    Just the simple fact you are using a screenshot that is with worst quality + way worst angle from the other side, and after the initial shot tell us all.
    And again there is a clear video proof exactly from the right angle:
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    And you didn't answer, neither explain anything. You are just repeating the same stuffs over and over again, losing my time and everyone actually in the process.

    Again i won't waste more time on you.

    A clear lowblow with zero connection to Usyk skin, whole punch/impact on Usyk trunks/shorts, which is clear from the video. Unless you need an eye doctor.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Here comes the next Fury fangirl troll. Probably one of the shadow alt as well. :D

    And yeah we know that in UK everything is clean shot, when it's for the right guy.
    Most corrupt country with USA for Boxing, and stacking the cards, ridiculous decision, ridiculous scorecards, etc, etc.
     
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