I'm A Fan Of Usyk But He Legitimately Got KO'ed

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Legal Body Punch ?

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  1. CaptainFeedback

    CaptainFeedback New Member banned Full Member

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    We'll never know as the count didn't start. Maybe he would have got straight up and made it through the round if the ref hadn't called it low and given him the respite.
     
  2. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In general, I think we should err on the side of a punch being legal. Legal punches are supposed to hurt and cause KOs.

    I think this particular punch was just a little too far down and has to be a low blow. Live it looked borderline, but the still image that is circulating looks like a pure foul. I think the referee got it right.

    I think if he has been just a couple inches higher, at least gotten some of the glove in the scoring area, it would be a different story.
     
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  3. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Majority calling low blow are Fury fans who want Usyk out of the picture, making Fury look better without ducking accusations.
     
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  4. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    The truth is anyone who believes that is not a low blow is a POS or in denial.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The glove landed on the beltline, not below. It was an uppercut, so it was moving upward. The moving upward motion of the punch makes the screenshot misleading, because the glove was not moving horizontally into the belt-line but upward into the stomach. If it was moving horizontally then its location at that moment would be relevant. You have to look at the trajectory of the punch, and where the center of the impact point of the glove was. The location of the lower part of his glove in that screenshot is not important because #1 that's not where the impact occurred and #2 it was not pushing into the belt-line laterally. To visualize this, think of it this way - the bottom half of Dubois glove as you say was essentially the tail of a comet that was being projected upward. The part of the glove that connected was pushing upward through the middle part of the belt-line (approximately in-line with the belly button) into his stomach area.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not robbed of an KO , but robbed of an opportunity to get the KO. Usyk more than likely gets up and goes into survival mode if Pabon called a 10 count. Its unknown if DD could have closed the show.

    A 10 count was the fair call . Here's an exercise you can do at home. Stand up , put your fist to your chin and measure the distance between your elbow and balls. Dubois landed below the elbow on the padding covering the navel. That was a wind sucking blow.

    https://cdn.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Usyk-Dubois-scaled.jpeg
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You should take emotion out of it and just watch the punch land in real-time. There's a reason why so many people consider it a legal shot. This isn't a dictatorship of thought. There are perfectly justified arguments on both sides of this. Those arguing it was low is based on the apparent grazing of the lower part of the glove with the lower part of the belt-line as it was moving up into the belt-line. That's a justified position equivalent to winning a case on a technicality. The prevaling logic is that punch was close enough to a legal shot when you watch it land in real-time that it's nitpicking to call that low. Hyperbolic micro analysis of a video frame does not change the fact that the impact connected with the middle part of the belt-line, in an upward motion, on trunks that were already hiked up much higher than his actual waist-line as is typical for Heavyweights.
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Low blow or no blow, Dubois sucked. And he lost fair and square.

    even when Usyk got back up Dubois also had 5 minutes to rest and was fully fresh. Usyk was still hurt… and why did dubois do? Nothing.

    Usyk went on to smash Dubois to pieces so where was dubois after Usyk was hurt? No where to be seen.

    Dubois had all the chances in the world and he didnt take any. He lost badly.

    Chisora did way better against Usyk with ZERO belts on the line, yet showed way more hunger and tenacity. Dubois was tentative all night, didn’t do anything he said he would do “win by all means necessary, hit anything and everything he can”.

    Usyk looked healthy and clean no bruises no cuts no damage. Dubois failed miserably. Terrible performance. Usyk hunted Dubois down and went toe to toe even though dubois is the bigger puncher, stronger man.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Usyk can say what he wants, I don’t buy that BS. No one gets in the ring and toys with his opponent at this level in heavyweight division unless you are superman.

    Any punch can kill or paralyse, you dont play games and take it easy when your opponent is trying to kill you and Usyk was damaged all over. Nobody risks that.

    Chisora did everything Dubois said he would do.
     
  11. kasabian19

    kasabian19 Active Member Full Member

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    Khan's KO of Zan Judah.

    No one ever questioned that, but that was certainly no higher than Dubois' body shot, and, in fact, looks lower.

    https://ibb.co/yR96TQG

    (No idea how to embed).
     
  12. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wasn’t low anyway.
     
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  13. Rodrigo Boom

    Rodrigo Boom Member Full Member

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    It looked like a very fair punch, right on the belt line. I don't know if the rules have changed, but on the belt used to be fine and anything below the belt, not.
     
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  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The rule is that it shouldn't land under the belly button, and after multiple stills and slow mos I still can't see if it did or not, so can't blame the ref. Wouldn't blame him if he called it legit either.

    Pretty much a 50-50 call imo. Will always be a "huge what if".
     
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  15. ZiggyBowie

    ZiggyBowie Member Full Member

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    Fury beats him, Usyk would school Wilder.