Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Usyk Was Hit Low, Ref Made The Right Call! Dump Thread.

Although Chisora is making sense by saying he should have used his size to bully, abit like what Chisora did in there, I think he is throwing a bit of shade on DDD, who is Don Charles' fighter. Maybe there's some hate on Don perhaps.

 

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The more I study that picture the more I’m convinced that the punch hasn’t yet landed and is curving upward.

 

Cool story, but what about the video that actually proof the picture is 100% correct?

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Also it's where the shot initially land, not where it finish it's motion, as that was uppercut, and it may have ended in Usyk chest, doesn't mean the shot was at the chest, right ?

The contact is clear lowblow and it's a clear that the shot lifted Usyk trunks.
This video is a perfect.

 

I think the punch looks about belly button level and I was always taught the punch cannot be below belly button. Part of the glove is probably below but part is definitely above. Was close though and people will argue forever about it I don’t think the reff has had a shocker of some conspiracy just a decision that people interpret differently.

 

Zero hate, he just speaking honestly and truthfully. It was his first reaction when the fight ended ringside. Poor performance by Dubois, he should know.. he did more damage

 

I originally thought it was fine. I now think having watched a few times, it was slightly too low

 

Looks on the belt line to me which is legal.
Usyk is not Superman, he’s capable of being hurt and he’s capable of being beaten. I can appreciate the fans of him on here and their high praise for his boxing skills but he’s not an atg at heavyweight. If by some miracle he beats Fury then Wilder and claims all the names of the era then he will be the best if this era. Based off what I see and let’s be honest this is not exactly the greatest of heavyweight eras, he would not have beaten guys like Lennox, Tyson, Holyfield, Vitali, Ali, Holmes,and a few more. Imo Fury will mail him and If Wilder attacks him and catches him it’s curtains.

 

Clear as day low unless you are wearing Queensberry Promotion spectacles and drank a litre of sour grape wine.

 

No one was expecting Dubois to trouble Usyk at all. He was well out his depth, has fought nowhere near the level of Usyk previously. He did well and exceeded expectations to stay in there for as long as he did, particularly away from home with a very pro-Usyk crowd. He had trouble in the lead up with flights & boots. Even Usyk's reaction at the end of the fight suggested he had a tough night. Dubois did better against Usyk than alot of other fighters have.

 

What was the reaction from Usyk that indicated tough night?

And why are you going to use flight problems as an excuse? Come on… since time immemorial from kickboxing to boxing fighters have had far worse issues in the lead up to a flight. Nothing ever goes to plan so thats a terrible point to raise…

Chisora did way better than Dubois, so did AJ, so did Bellew

 

No, he didn't. His navel was exactly in line with the top of his trunks. You could see his navel every time he stood up straight.

[url]You can clearly see it here for instance[/url], before continuing the fight after the low blow. It's hilarious how Dubois' trunks are pulled up to his nipples Fury style, yet it's Usyk who had his trunks "too high".

[url]Another shot with Usyk's navel clearly visible just above the top of his trunks.[/url]

And for the "oh but these are just screenshots, deliberately showing rare instances when his navel somehow was visible" gang, a video evidence when Usyk was recuperating:

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His navel is exactly in line with the top of the trunks.

40.1 of the USA Boxing National Rule Book (which was the one considered for the match), states that all hits 'below the belt' are “illegal”. To clarify, the 'belt line' for these purposes is NOT the somewhat wide area of the actual belt of the shorts - it is literally “a line located on the level of the fighter’s belly button”.

This is further confirmed by The Association of Boxing Commissions Regulatory Guidelines, which state: “Below the belt refers to all the area of the body that lies below the line of the opponent's navel, including the genital area, legs, and crotch. It goes on to say: "In these sports, as in many others, punches must not be struck below the opponent's navel, as it is deemed unfair and contrary to sportsmanship.”

Meaning Usyk's navel = top of his trunks = belt line hence Dubois hit him with a low blow when he landed on the waistband.

 

Just check how high fury wears his
Lol
Shorts round hips below navel
That's where they should be

 

If you had the time and/or inclination you could probably show it as a ratio relative to two other points on his torso...

For example, if the ratio of (distance between shoulder and nipples to the distance between nipples and beltline) is only marginally different from (shoulder-nipple:nipple-bellybutton) then it should show that the beltline at time of impact wasn't that high... Or if it doesn't, it could show that it was.

This is one you could analyze and overanalyze til the cows come home if you care enough to go that far.

For me, it comes to what it's reasonable for the ref to see and/or conclude in real time, and I think he made the right call at the time and the analysis seems to bear that out so far.

 

Mad, mad world.