Have Hrgovic's chances increased now compared to before?

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I think that Usyk beats him by UD in a 9-3 8-4 type of fight. Hrgovic was able to stand up to Zhang's brutal power for 12 rounds so I don't think that Usyk would stop him.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.

    Hrgovic edged Zhang.

    Zhang is arguably better than anyone Usyk has beaten in his career, Joshua included.
     
  4. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Often seen here and nearly all sports forums. This is the "by exaggerating my statements it makes my argument stronger" technique. It's lazy and makes your argument look weaker and even illogical.

    Fury & WIlder have more than 4 & 2 names on their records unless, as you're doing, the bar is set very high. Aren't Stiverne (WBC champ), Wallin, Breazeale (2X title challenger) names?

    By your absurd standards, every HW champ from Sullivan to date only has a few names on their record if you set the criteria narrow enough.
    You want an example? Ali. He only has 3 names on his record: Frazier, Norton, Foreman. He went life & death w/the first 2 names. I won't mention late in his career Holmes for obvious reasons. Beefed up Lt HWs & CWs like Cooper, Patterson, Quarry shouldn't count. Lyle? Slow footed, average hand speed, big puncher. Shavers? Huge puncher, weak jaw, mediocre engine. Both lost to a CW. Nah, those two don't cut it either. I could go on an on and do this with any HW champ - even the top ones. I just did for one of them :icon_popcorn:

    Filip's chances are about the same before & after Usyk-DD.
     
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  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he hits Usyk low with a blind referee Hrgovic stands a chance. Otherwise, no.
     
  6. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Usyk picks him apart and cruises.
     
  7. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    lol, delusional. Hrgovic lost that fight. I’m not impressed with him, Usyk would dominate him and win on points. Hrgovic is a matchroom hypejob .
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    Hrgovic had a 74-15 amateur record, a 25-4 World Series of Boxing record, and has a 16-0 pro log. He competed in the Youth World Championships when he was under 18, competed in three World Amateur Championships, the European Championship (which he won) and won Bronze at the 2016 Olympics.

    He's hardly a hypejob.

    Also, the Hrgovic-Zhang fight was great. Whether you had Hrgovic winning or losing, you aren't a hypejob if you compete in and win an all-out war like that.

    And Hrgovic and Zhang aren't hypejobs.

    Hypejob? What a truly ridiculous comment.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "That is 4 real fights - of 35."

    Wlad, Wilder x3. Ok.

    By the same logic Lewis only had three real fights (Vitali, Holyfield x2) and got KO'd in two fights that weren't real fights.

    Hrgovic has 16 pro fights, the Zhang win (highly competitive/controversial 12 round war), McKean (best win Rice) and what?

    Fury had far more pro experience when he challenged Wlad: 24 fights, seven with at least some competitiveness, two full 12 rounders, win over Cunningham (2x cruiser titlist), two wins over Chisora (title challenger).
     
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  10. SergioJ91

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    15 wins against tomato cans and 1 robbery win imo. Let’s see him beat someone of quality without controversy before heaping praise. And amateurs don’t matter. We’ve seen many boxers with excellent amateur careers have absolutely terrible pro careers. From what I’ve seen from Hrgovic, he doesn’t deserve any hype as of now, he’s unproven. He’s already 31 as well so time is running out…
     
  11. On The Money

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    I'd like to see him vs Daniel San just to see where his current level is. If he struggles with Dubois he likely has little chance vs Usyk. I suspect he is holding out for a fight date now though.
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    The World Series of Boxing began as pro fights. They got paid. They have pro rules. But when the losses began appearing on their pro records, fighters said they maybe didn't want to compete if losses counted.

    So, somehow, they now fall into a grey area between amateur and pro.

    But they are five-round paid pro fights. Hrgovic was 25-4 in the World Series of Boxing.

    He's basically 41-4 as a pro. Not 16-0.

    And he's Usyk's mandatory. Time isn't "running out." Winning the heavyweight title at 31 is fine.
     
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  13. SergioJ91

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    He doesn’t deserve a fight against Usyk. He doesn’t have one legitimate win against a top heavyweight yet at his age. Fury vs. Usyk for undisputed is more important for boxing and needs to happen ASAP. Boxing already dropped the ball on Fury vs. AJ and Wilder vs. AJ. No need to **** it up again for goddamn Hrgovic of all people lol.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Just because you didn't agree with the Zhang decision doesn't matter.

    It was an amazing war. Both guys fought great. Neither is a hypejob.

    I look forward to Usyk-Hrgovic. And, if Usyk wins, Usyk-Zhang. And, if Usyk loses, Hrgovic-Zhang 2.

    Hrgovic didn't take a knee and quit twice, like Dubois. And Zhang proved in the ring he's a helluva lot tougher than Joe Joyce.
     
  15. SergioJ91

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    Well, maybe you would like to see this fight now, but the majority of boxing fans don’t. They want to see undisputed once and for all. Anything else and it will be bad for boxing and the heavyweight division. Hrgovic can go rematch Zhang in China after the Joyce rematch, or face off with Joyce in Britain if he wins…