Face facts, Rocky Marciano is the greatest heavyweight champ head to head.

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Rocky's trainer says you need the footwork of Tommy Loughran, the left hook of Stanley Ketchel, the power and hand speed of Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis, the jab of a Gene Tunny, it will take a SUPERMAN to beat Rocky Marciano. And if you look at all the heavyweight champs, one or the other lacks these feats.

    Dempsey??? Lacks a Gene Tunney jab.
    Louis lacks the footwork of Loughran.
    Tyson??? Footwork of Loughran
    Lewis?? Handspeed of a Dempsey or Louis, maybe even lacks a Ketchel left hook.
    Ali??? Lacks the power of Dempsey or Louis, so Rocky Marciano is just going to walk him down.
    Holmes?? Power of Dempsey or Louis
    Liston has all sorts of issues lol.
    So head to head Rocky Marciano is the greatest heavyweight ever.


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    AND IF HE WERE FIGHTING TODAY, WITH THE BENEFIT OF MODERN METHODS HE WOULD BE 225LBS AND 6'4"!
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah I think with modern methods he can walk in with the weight and size of maybe a Tyson Fury.
     
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    100% !!
     
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    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    It is a reality that people are taller today because of better nutrition, more protein avaliable.

    If Rocky was born in 1986, he would be 6 feet.

    In Rocky days kids didn´t eat meat every day !
     
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    A six foot tall Rocky isn't Rocky anymore.
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nahhh Rocky Marciano would look more like this but with hair.
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    If every HW champion was scaled down to be 185-189lbs, they would each lose a fight to Rocky Marciano.
    By "proportional reduction" I don't mean a diet, but that the boxer's height, arm span, and that of all limbs are reduced.
    In such a scenario, everyone would lose to Marciano: Patterson, Johansson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, the Klitschko brothers, Fury...
    I would still give the biggest chance to 185-189lbs Michael Spinks.
    So one could say that Rocky Marciano is the P4P HW GOAT.
    Uh, I hope I explained well what I wanted to say, and I guess I won't be misinterpreted on purpose :)
     
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    I hope they had a defibrillator on stand by for that big fella.
     
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    His Suzie Q was better and had more power than anything that Wilder will ever throw, but realistically FOTC Frazier, Ali, Foreman, 88 Tyson likely smoke him, there are those that will say prime Louis smokes him too
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    But even these fighters lack something that great trainer Charlie Goldman said. Either the footwork is not right or lacking the power ete. You think wild swinging Foreman is just going in lacking the jab of Gene Tunney and just bombing Marciano out??
     
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    If Rocky was fighting today, with improvements in natural nutrition, training and roids, he would be a meta human.

    Still entering the ring at just 5’10 1/2” with a 67 1/2” reach, his SHW opposition would be lulled into a false sense of security.

    However, just prior to opening bell, Rocky tenses his whole body, which sees electricity begin to spark all around him and cause him to proportionally size up to a 6”7” behemoth with an insane 87” reach.

    Today, Rocky easily achieves a 490-0 record.

    He would also visit Larry Holmes to have a friendly discussion re a jock strap comment Larry made many years ago.
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The sad fact is MOST of Rocky Marciano's fights would look a lot like this. Marciano just hits way too hard to legally be allowed to fight.
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