Terence Crawford vs Terry Norris at 154

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Terrible vs Bud

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  1. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Getting buzzed and getting stopped are two diff things. Terence has been buzzed before but never been close to being stopped. Terry on the other hand....well, you know that he knows exactly how it feels.
    Terry Norris was a good fighter. Terence is GREAT!!!
     
    elmaldito, Aug 30, 2023
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  2. Hi-Tech

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    I think Bud would win by decision. I would rather watch Spence vs Terry, would be a good slugfest
     
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  3. tarrant45

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    Yet Norris has a better resume. Buds best win is exposing a hype job who couldnt even beat up the Garcia boys coming up in weight. Norris would have destroyed them both.
     
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  4. Serge

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    Fighting big punchers and KO artists and fighting featherfists are two different things. Your chances of getting stopped massively increase if you're fight big punchers and KO artists than they do if you're fighting featherfists and average punchers.

    Do you think the chances of getting stopped are higher if you're fighting Ricky Burns, Postol, Gamboa and Shawn Porter or Julian Jackson?

    Crawford was badly hurt by a much smaller Gamboa who has scored 2 stoppages at 135 and dropped and hurt in one of the extremely rare instances he fought a legit banger his own size in Mean Machine who I think is the hardest puncher he's fought

    Norris hits harder than anyone Crawford has ever fought and in addition to his power he possesses blazing quick hands, vicious combos, and is a lethal finisher. Crawford has never even fought a 154 pounder, let alone beaten a great one like Norris. Even if he went up and beat everyone at that weight no one up there right now is on Norris' level
     
    Serge, Aug 30, 2023
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  5. BoxingIQ

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    Norris is a level above any version of Errol imo
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

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    Blocker beat Starling and was a welter like Bud.
     
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  7. Mark Anthony

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    Different styles, Norris had flashy, quick, powerful combos while Spence is more of a plodder with less head movement and power, Norris would have destroyed him.
     
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  8. elmaldito

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    Thats your opinion and thats fine. Id would never put as much stock in a glass jawed fighter as you. Crawford is a risk taker. He gets in there and tries to beat dudes to the punch and takes risks when hes confident. 135 he was drained and even so, did crawford get stopped? If norris went down to 135 crawford could ko him with a jab, im sure of it. So people dont like certain fighters for whatever the reason and there is literally nothing that fighter can do to change the persons mind. Crawford could beat ennis. Move up, beat tzyu, move up, beat canelo, beat benny......even go up beat beterbiev, bivol, move up beat usyk and fury and you still woulodnt give him props. But ya, TERRIBLE TERRY NORRIS. LMAO
     
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  9. BoxingIQ

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    When I made that thread about context not mattering in today's boxing world, people called me a hater and stated that I didn't know **** about boxing. This thread just proved my point. Crawford could beat Tszyu, Catano, Spence again, and Charlo that still doesn't mean he would beat Norris. Norris was a different breed when you include his speed, power, and finishing ability. Picutre a bigger Gamboa with more power, better boxing ability, faster hand speed, and the ability to finish.
     
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  10. elmaldito

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    kod by simon brown who also couldnt hold buds jock. These are good fighters. Not great.
     
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  11. elmaldito

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    if you want to do a good fantasy matchup without being disrespectful HOPKINS vs CRAWFORD would be perfect. Putting a glass jawed good fighter vs crawford is disrespectful in my opinion. Match a prime mccallum with crawford. Another good fight. Match a mcclellan with crawford. Levels to this. great vs great.
     
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  12. Serge

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    Crawford's best win in 40 fights in Spence

    His second best is either Postol or Porter

    Great fighter but his resume is just not very good

    I don't want to hear the drained excuses, If you boil down to divisions to bash up leprechauns you're much bigger than then you can't have you cake and eat it and complain about being drained

    That's not true at all. I rate Crawford highly. I've had him top 3 P4P for years

    But the fact is his resume is poor for a 40 fight vet P4P top 5 fighter, he has barely fought any legit punchers, especially his size, he was dropped on one of the very rare occasions he did, and he hasn't ever fought at 154 yet, let alone proven he can beat a great at that weight who hit like a truck with both hands, was blazing fast and a lethal finisher.

    If he moves up and starts beating top 154 pounder or above champs I'll revise my opinion. Norris was a beast and Crawford has never seen anything like the destructive offensive force he was and he was a beast at a weight Crawford has proven nothing at as of now.

    Even if he just beats Super Boots who is also a destructive offensive force with speed and vicious power I'll give him a lot of credit for doing so
     
    Serge, Aug 30, 2023
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  13. Serge

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    Norris was a great fighter. It's disrespectful to him to suggest Crawford beats him when he hasn't even beaten a janitor or a fisherman at 154 yet

    Crawford would stand zero chance against McCallum, Not because Crawford isn't a great fighter, but rather because McCallum was amazing and too big
     
    Serge, Aug 30, 2023
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  14. elmaldito

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    drained excuse? Are fighters not weaker when they cut all the way down? Why do you think weight bullying is a myth? Why do you think crawford has KTFOd everybody at welter? You think he wont bring his power up to 154 and be stronger and more durable aswell? Ya, we will revisit brotha.
    Who does he have to beat for you to accept reality?
    ennis
    tzyu
    charlo
    canelo
    benny
    bivol
    beterbiev
    usyk
    fury???????? whats it gonna take?
     
    elmaldito, Aug 30, 2023
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  15. elmaldito

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    crawford is on the level of mccallum mcclellan and bhop. That will be common knowledge when he retires. garun****intee it
     
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