Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Dubois Was Robbed! Dump Thread.

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Was it legal

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  2. No

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats a bit of a stretch to say the least.

    If you can't tell the shot is illegal you can't call it illegal.
     
  2. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Having been kicked In the bollocks numerous times when I was at school, I can confirm that's how I would react If I got punched In the 2 eggs and a hanky like Usyk did the other night :lol:
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You just don't want to admit that you are wrong. And the only angle that matter is from the front. Anyone knows that rep from side angle, and half-hidden angle, aka most of the shot is not seen from the front, cant be judged properly.
    The shot landed on 1 spot, and that was below. A video angle doesn't change where the shot is landed, just the perspective you see it.
    The side angle is absolutely unclear and can't be judged properly, simple as that.

    And since the new footage arrive, pretty much everyone is saying it's a lowblow. Even most of the UK guys, that have a bias, cause are from UK obviously.
     
  4. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Basically it’s ok for people to borderline rabbit punch and borderline low blow as long as they are “pushing the action” it’s ok
     
  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you know what borderline means?
     
  6. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3.31 Points will be awarded:-
    For “attack” – direct clean hits with the knuckle part of the glove of either hand to any part of the front or side of the head or body above the belt. The “belt” is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones. For “defence” – guarding, slipping, ducking or getting away from an attack. Where contestants are otherwise equal the majority of points will be given to the one who does most leading off or displays the better style.

    The actual proper rule as stated on bbboc site. Now where does it say the navel is the low point cutoff?

    So because I'm from UK I'm biased? Perhaps you shouldn't be so judgmental. Like I said my entire post history is there for show any bias should be easy to see and prove surely . Why isn't yours?

    So now you have been educated on the rule what say you now?
     
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  7. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Having an argument, and there being an argument are two different things. It's clearly a low blow with no argument, it's clear as day in the videos posted above.

    People also argue the earth is flat.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah because you are from UK, you for certain can have a bias.
    You were arguing and arguing, and still arguing even though i clearly prove what i have said and show picture with Usyk navel right before the punch, on the punch, and after the punch, and you seems to ignore them all. I added plenty of videos as well.

    And the fight was under WBA rules:
    As there is different rules btw. USA is different as well:
    WBA:
    LOW BLOW/HITTING BELOW THE BELT. It is critical to know that the waistline is defined as the imaginary horizontal line through the navel to the top of the hips.

    That being said, they said there is a universal rule about the lowblow that is accepted, and that is everything below the navel.
    From UK media Telegraph:
     
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  9. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The BBBoC would have arse all to do with a fight in Poland. Plus there about as corrupt as you can get thereselves anyway.
     
  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Show how it's clear? If the cut off point is hidden behind something how can you be certain? How does any of those pics show it's below the hip bone?
     
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its still the rules they were fighting under tho, it was still a fight under queensberry rules that the bbboc adhere to and publicise!! That's proper grasping at straws now!!
     
  12. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could have bias but that's doesn't mean I do have bias... I have been on this site for years my post history is there find one post any post or thread that shows bias. It's easy to call bias when you refuse to show your posting history. Please give me the link that you got that wba ruling info on pls. And where can I see that the fight was under revised wba rules
     
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  14. delboy82

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    It's OK I actually found it the wba rule says that tnhe waistline is from the top of the hip up to the navel. So an banded area. It confirms that a low blow starts below the top of the hip
     
  15. lordlosh

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    Game over:

    WBA statement: Dubois hit Usyk with a low blow


    The World Boxing Association (WBA) after the fight between Oleksandr Usyk and Daniel Dubois published an official statement, reacting to the victory of the Ukrainian boxer.

    “There was a dramatic moment in the fight when Dubois delivered a low blow, from which Usyk fell to the canvas. The area he hit sparked controversy about the legality of the hit, but the referee ruled that the hit had landed below the belt and gave Usyk the necessary recovery time to continue the fight...,” the statement reads.

    Thus, the organization recognizes that Dubois landed an illegal blow in the fifth round and the referee of the fight did the right thing, giving Usyk time to recover.