Prime George Foreman would be dwarfed by today's heavies

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  1. Salty Dog

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    Ok. I'm gonna hafta see what I can find on youtube now. :beer-toast1:
     
  2. Rollin

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    Obese steroid cheat Whyte, obese dwarf Ruiz, 255lbs Parker who traded his entire gas tank to be a painfully average puncher. How will he deal with such obstacles? 26 years old Foreman entered the ring against Frazier at 217, but looking like a lean, mean killing machine and as his career went on he could carry more weight. He likely would against the modern so called superheavies, in a twelve round era, and going into his thirties.

    Not to mention pounds matter when they translate into strength to control and rough up an opponent, or into punching power, perhaps with some durability sprinkled on it. Foreman is likely not falling short of anybody in the history of the heavyweight division in the pure strength department on the basis of being something of a genetic freak with excellent drilling and training as far as control game goes. Punching power goes without saying.

    Reach of those 6'6 guys would force him to adjust. No arguing here.
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Careful, people will say you're promoting pseudo science claiming there's a difference between lbs of fat vs lbs of muscle. Apparently a 250 pound slob who ate Taco Bell for a year has superior strength and durability to a 230 pound muscle bound guy with a strict diet. :lol:
     
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  4. Entaowed

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    I think Terrell was 6'6"-or within a 1/2 inch.
    Hagler has been listed at 5'9.5", & I believe he was a 1/2" shorter.
    But you posit him at well under 5'8"-that must mean no more than @5.7"!

    I really doubt that.
    Please link any stare downs where he looks at all shorter than guys who are 5'8".
     
  5. Devon

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    Not when he relied on his size though.
     
  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He’s the same size as Usyk, and he’s light years ahead of Foreman technically, also Foreman didn’t fight many southpaws.
     
  7. Storm-Chaser

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    Right, let me get this straight, you want me to Believe a 260lb 6'4" Foreman is no match for todays heavyweights?

    Foreman was a better fighter in his second come back, so a prime George Foreman is not 225 he's 260lb.

    In @NoNeck Foreman had two primes.

    Truth is George would manhandle any heavyweight in this current era. He would not take a backwards step.
     
  8. Storm-Chaser

    Storm-Chaser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Explain further plz
     
  9. NoNeck

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    If you're taking a shot at Ruiz, he sure as hell has better stamina and handspeed than Foreman ever demonstrated.
     
  10. Storm-Chaser

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    Foreman does not claim to be fast, nor has he ever. A second career Foreman never ran out of gas and went the distance with a fellow heavyweight champion, though if evander wasn't on steroids there would be no match.
     
  11. Storm-Chaser

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    We should be testing @NoNeck
    I have to assume he is on drugs due to his continued and delusional ranting against Foreman.
     
  12. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Usyk would be lured to Foreman´s short right hand, the concept of boxing technique that you talking is too narrow.

    Being able to jab a lot doesn´t beat Boxing IQ, and these fighters today lack exactly that, because they just have so much less minutes fighting (Usyk barely spar compared with what Foreman went through... huge gap in minutes mastering this stuff, while Usyk is hitting planed combinations in pads, Foreman was sparring without knowing what the other guy was going to do... huge difference).

    Foreman would set up that right hand and Usyk wouldn´t see it coming... he can jab as much as he wants..

    Usyk´s punches wouldn´t even tickle Foreman too.... Foreman would KO him in 6 to 7 rounds.....
     
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  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    This Usyk guy is being massivly overrated lately I can see. Yeah he beat Joshua, who is a second coming of Frank Bruno, I know, and he looks mean, and he dances....
    But let´s see him have at least 30 pro fights first..... then we talk him with ATGs.

    And if people don´t remember or know, Foreman is a gold olympic too.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    He went the distance w chinny guys because he couldn’t stop them.
     
  15. Storm-Chaser

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    I guess you have to kinda say that to carry on your delusion. Otherwise it might make Foreman look good for going the distance with evander, right?