Let them all juice and let's get a real champ ?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023.


PEDS IN BOXING

Poll closed Aug 31, 2025.

  1. TEST EVERYONE

    21 vote(s)
    77.8%

  2. ZERO TESTING

    6 vote(s)
    22.2%
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  1. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm very much inclined to just let everyone take whatever they want with zero testing,in all sports actually...

    The whole charade of testing and bluffing and denying and lies is just pure pantomime.

    I know for a fact most lads in gyms are juicing just to look hench on a Saturday night so why oh why wouldn't an athlete let alone an elite one?

    Please don't be naive and do some research before voting ...
     
    tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023
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  2. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    .....or, just do what most honest sports do and stamp it out with big bans that are actually enforced with no loopholes to squirm out of
     
    Bfcad, Aug 31, 2023
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  3. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't forget Lance Armstrong was most tested man in the world and 9 out ot 10 fastest men in world got popped and still had careers etc etc blah blah ....

    When Wayne Rooney was playing he was earning more per year than the budget of the whole UK football drug testing

    It's pie in the sky the drug testing thing
     
    tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023
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  4. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Problem is some of these drugs can really mess you up and have long term damaging effects. Obviously the top guy would have access to the best pharmaceuticals and doctors, but outside of that it can get dangerous if you dont know what you're doing
     
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  5. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares when you are 20 odd?

    There's a poll they did in USA on high school athletes if you would take peds and win Olympic gold but die by 40 years old a very high % Said yes ..

    I'm constantly shocked how naive the general population are on this subject
     
    tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023
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  6. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Goldmans dilemma !

    Would you take a magic pill to win Olympic gold if it meant you'd die within 5 years ...

    52% yes
     
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  7. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like a 4 year ban for traces of cocaine or 12 month for actual peds?
     
    tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Letting everyone legally juice is no solution

    People die and get seriously injured in boxing so you can not allow that

    It's a huge problem but nobody seems to quite know the solution or at least they don't without hurting their bottom line
     
    Wizbit1013, Aug 31, 2023
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  9. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally think the weight draining/bullying is far worse for health in boxing than peds...

    If a fighter was at his natural weight on peds do you think it's worse than a fighter without roids thats boiled to an inch of his life then on fight night a stone heavier?..
     
    tdf1974, Aug 31, 2023
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  10. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, great. Let's have a full-on circus-freak show.

    There will be plenty missing at the Hall of Fame presentations though. That 5 year wait will see the death of many of them and the survivors will be busy adding to their roid rage rap sheets.
     
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  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Happy for a separate sports world set up for PED assisted athletes and those who wish to watch them with the following caveats:

    1. No participant ever comes back to regular non PED sports and their name and record is expunged from regular sports annals. The fans also agree never to argue the case for cheating to those who disagree.
    2. The fans are jointly liable with the broadcasters and promoters for all associated medical costs to fighters for the rest of their lives. No NHS / state subsidised insurance etc. All costs picked up by PED sport and by extension those watching.
    3. It's not listed in sports sections of media, online or otherwise. Nothing about results, upcoming fixtures unless in a separate labelled area.
    4. Portion of the profits ring fenced to educate kids as to the effects of those drugs the muppets in the gyms are taking.
    5. Once a year all participants must sing the Albanian national anthem whilst hopping on one leg to bring about world peace.
     
    Holler, Sep 1, 2023
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  12. notrobbo

    notrobbo New Member Full Member

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    Test them all. Never happen given lack of structure and fact not in benefit of those running business side of it
     
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  13. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is why 90s boxing was so exciting.
     
    alpo1, Sep 1, 2023
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  14. notrobbo

    notrobbo New Member Full Member

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    And why Tyson bit his superior opponent ear off when frustrated
     
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  15. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly.....

    Plus Marquez wouldn't have ever beaten Pac with the k.o of the decade
     
    tdf1974, Sep 1, 2023
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