Matchroom VADA Testing, other Promoters?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by DramaShow, Aug 31, 2023.


  1. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But honestly why would they when have people like Hearn, Whyte and Fury trying to take them to the cleaners if they find anything?
     
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  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Definitely the latter
     
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  3. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not true. Brook was regularly tested. He even posted a video after being tested 3 times in 2 days.
     
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  4. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    UKAD conducted 346 tests for BBBoC fights in the 12 months to March this year, per their last report. Roughly two-thirds were "in competition" so effectively sponsored by promotion, and one-third outside competition.

    I don't know how the BBBoC splits this up in terms of why they'd test someone out of competition - for example if it's completely random - but 133 a year doesn't suggest they have much funding for it. That's the crux of the issue and promoters either dodging the problem or going off to do their own thing, isn't helpful. Give UKAD the money and they'll do the tests, they're not "****" like people have said in the last day or so.

    Typically of the UK in this day and age, UKAD seems to spend more of its time on freedom of information requests which are cynical or try to force a breach of confidentiality, than they do on testing. 13 this year and each has a 5-10 page response even before disclosing anything.
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Not even sure why he referenced this fight tbh
     
  6. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just to follow up on my previous post since I dug a bit further into UKAD... It received roughly £2.2m in testing fees in its last reported year (2022) and in the last testing figures, the BBBoC was about 3% of total tests altogether.

    Rough figures would say the BBBoC tests cost about £85,000 a year. That wouldn't cover two staff, let alone the testing capabilities provided by universities, reporting, legal, and all the other things that go on. There's your problem in the UK at least, right there. Why fund VADA when a non-profit UK public body is ready and willing to do more?
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Exactly my point
     
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  8. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not saying VADA should be used for every fight but AJ v Whyte was domestic and if matchroom openly said no VADA testing for that fight there would have been outcry and all sorts of conspiracy theories made up with matchroom as well as the fighters being accused of all sorts.
     
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  9. iestyn2020

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    I looked at vada website and there have been 20 fights this year of all the fights in the uk and america been tested. no boxxer fights, three queensbury and the rest are about even with matchroom and top rank plus dubois vs uysk. If we are talking about additional testing that still not alot of fights.
     
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  10. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what ? They are almost useless not fit for purpose tests anyway ..only a clown would get popped for peds as no novices get tested anyway it's only really title fights when anyone taking peds for elite fights should have a decent chemist way ahead of the not fit for purpose testing ..
     
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  11. DramaShow

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    Obviously there would be, but the forum goes quiet for Smith vs Eubank and starts to question why UKAD testing isn’t sufficient. Queensberry had a world title fight between Tete and Cunningham which had no VADA testing.

    I remember seeing here people criticising Matchroom for using Drug Free Sport and not VADA, when you have apparently the two best promoters in the UK who don’t use VADA testing for their biggest fights!
     
  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Excuse me, but my questioning was valid

    If UKAD is helped more then the need for additional testing hopefully becomes redundant

    Nobody going silent what's so ever

    And who on earth called Ben Shalom one of the top two promoters in the UK?
     
  13. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    I get that Matchroom's reputation for drugs testing is in the gutter after the Conor Benn saga and Whyte failing yet again. But this really isn't having the desired effect of making them look better.
     
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  14. Bob Flaps

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    The comments on YouTube videos where the casuals get their sound bites are telling. “Eddie is right, the other promoters need to do more”, “organise a testing pool FFS” etc. Parrots with no idea what they’re talking about.
     
  15. iestyn2020

    iestyn2020 Member Full Member

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    BOXXer hasn't but whats is queensbury matches that should have had vada testing this year. zhang vs joyce has been tested for both fights. now not sure if this is queensbury or someone else, but the dubois and fury fights are both been tested