Matchroom VADA Testing, other Promoters?

Whyte's first failed drugs test under Matchroom saw them take the same scumbag approach they did with Benn.

But that was when Hearn had plans to milk more utter garbage PPVs out of Whyte. Now he knows he can't possibly con anyone into buying another fight like Whyte vs Rivas, and the AJ 'grudge' match was the final hurrah.

The failed drugs test put paid to that, so nothing lost in cutting him loose.

Imagine it was AJ failing in the same way though..

 

I think you're making the wrong argument. PPV events are no different than small hall or dinner shows other than finances, the risks are the same.

Proper randomised out-of-competition testing across the board is the only answer. If money can be found at PPV level for dedicated, focused tests, it should be diverted to all boxing, completely random but to a minimum level, so that people don't get surprised.

If that's unrealistic then we might as well stop testing at all. And at a stroke we'd stop this being a part of promotional rivalry and more about safe competition.

 

It's not bloody hypothetical when the same thing has already taken place and we've all seen it. If Matchroom stand to lose a lot of money from a failed drugs test then you can expect a drawn-out, underhand response and massive attacks on the organising bodies. It would be the same next year as it was 4 years ago depending on the boxer in question. You saying they've learned a lesson is the hypothesis.

Nobody paying attention gives one jot how much they test when they know the disdain they show towards the processes and people carrying them out.

You're calling the Benn saga a 'mistake'. That's progress on your part but talk about a euphemism. Yeah the BJS nose spray excuse was garbage, but incomparable to the damage caused by Benn in bringing the whole sport into disrepute.

 

What's the point if they're not enforced in this jurisdiction?

Also didn't Connor Benn have proof that they fudged his drug tests? Not very reliable are they.

Matchroom FC keep moving the goalposts every time they score an own goal.

 

The recent Whyte failed test response proves you wrong. They had a PPV event which had to be cancelled and a sold out arena which they had to offer refunds to consumers.

How is that not matchroom standing to lose money?

As the poster above noted, it's very convenient that Warren threatening to sue a commission when BJS failed a test is very much forgotten.

 

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Not buying the reasons from Shalom. How does using Vada muddy the waters?

Yes Vada can't ban fighters but this was the same guy who was saying Benn v Eubank had to be cancelled after Benn failed a VADA test.

Just be honest and say the cost for VADA testing is the reason why they were not used.

 

Where has Shalom plucked this number 45 from?

 

You've completely ignored my argument. I couldn't care less about VADA or big events, or promoters in other countries.

UK boxing needs proper randomised drug testing on a bigger scale, not 10-11 tests a month across 1080 licensed boxers. There's only going to be a limited pot of money to do that and I'd rather it went into a pool (as Hearn has suggested) for all boxers, rather than making sure AJ/Whyte/Fury/whoever get tested 10 times during their PPV camps. The latter is so predictably avoidable as being a waste of time.

This then needs some thought on how opponents shipped to the UK are tested and probably where the whole system falls down - unless this kind of approach happened with every licensing commission then it's kind of pointless.

 

C'mon it in no way proves my point wrong. That PPV night was gone, up in smoke. The question then is whether Whyte is worth enough money to them in future to go down the same road they did with Benn, or even with Whyte the first time 4 years ago.

 

What point are you trying to make, two wrongs don't make a right.

All I had to say in this thread was that nobody cares how much testing takes place at Matchroom after witnessing what happens when someone fails who is considered a prize asset like Benn.

Several people made the same point and you've got no real answer to it so you're doing just like Eddie and looking to deflect and muddy the waters.

 

Tete

Tete fight wasn't a world title fight, it was for the common wealth and the mccann fight as level it was, even if it was warrens biggest fight of the year would not be vada testing, fair play to hearn having such a low level fight in catteral fight being tested. He still doesn't do enough of the smaller fights either when they more likely to cheat.