Carlos Monzon Vs Hearns - Is This The Worst, Fight At Middle For Tommy?

I really don't see it. Tommy is much faster.

 

Strictly your opinion, you are not an expert nor am I. You are not at peace with yourself, because you tell us, you are trying to convince yourself. I am done conversing with you and a few others. The truth hurts, like I said Your Opinion and as far as being a follower, whatever floats your boat. I think that it is best that we do not have anything to do with each other from now on, we differ in opinions and you cannot admit your faults. Stay out of my way and I will stay out of yours. We are not friends nor have we ever been, friendship has a different meaning for me, no, that does not mean someone has to always agree with me but I will not let someone throw insults at what I post, and sit still. But if you believe you are an expert, blow your own horn, but I also have my opinion on that, which it would not be pleasant for you to hear.

 

Monzon cuts through him like a seal through a penguin.

 

You've forgotten one important fact, Griffith was twice the fighter and then some that DeWitt was. Also Griffith was a better MW than Hearns and Monzon was one of only two people to ever stop him in 112 fights, that's not bad if you ask me.

 

Whatever dude. You're absolutely right. We are not friends.
And someone as closed minded as you are I wouldn't have
as a friend anyway. Look in the mirror when it comes down
to not admitting faults. You maybe surprised what you see,
if you remove your blinders that is.....
I wish you would point out exactly what post of yours
I insulted.

 

If I am closed minded, so are you. Takes one to know one. Those two are never going to fight anyway, these types of fights are simply biased based on your part and mine. I no longer participate in these childish fantasy fights, they are plain silly. Kindly stay out of my posts, I will kindly stay out of yours. No more trading of insults. It is not worth it.

 

Remember how Hagler fought Hearns? He didnt fight anything close to his normal style. He changed completely. Marvin Hagler was a boxer/puncher but also a great technician. He had a great jab from either side. He had 10 defenses of his middleweight title up until he faced Thomas Hearns.
Point is...why didn't Hagler try to box Hearns? Is Monzon gonna be able to beat Hearns from the outside, as standup fighter..so basically for Carlos Monzon to win here he might have be something other than what made him successful..is it possible? Yea but not that common. Marvin Hagler took determination to another level.
Those picking Monzon are assuming he can beat Hearns from the outside which really never happened in his career. Lightheavyweights couldn't do it.

I just believe in styles make fights. I think Hearns would be comfortable in there beating Carlos with his faster, longer left jab and that missile of a righthand behind it. It's not like Hearns couldn't punch at 160.

 

'Monzon too strong for Hearns'. There it is.

 

I don't see it as the worst as Monzon was hittable and not exceptionally fast or a one punch KO hitter but Monzon was incredible tough and had no problem going 15 rounds ... over 12 maybe Tommy has a shot at his very very best but Monzon would be favored and overwhelmingly over 15 ..

 

Agree. At his very best (against Benitez, say) Hearns looked well nigh unbeatable. He was always game and brave, as well. Monzon, though, was stronger and tougher. His chin was second to none. He was heavy-handed, too, once he got into that unique groove of his. When he had Nino B on the run in their rematch, for instance, EVERY punch Monzon threw looked hurtful. Cosell must have been on the sauce when he called that fight. Monzon was brutalising Nino - and Cosell was too busy yapping to see it.

 

Monzon beats Hearns, for sure, but I think Marvin Hagler and SRR are his worst matchups at 160lbs

 

Hearns wins. Monzon is just too hittable which doesn't get talked about enough and he's especially easy to hit with the jab. Hearns jab is top 10 ever and he has power to go along with the jab, along with his chopping right. Monzon chin is awesome, but you just can't get hit too many times by Hearns and expect to win

 

Have been watching Monzon fights recently and the above post is my impression as well. Monzon was just indomitable and based on his bio, naturally incllined to high order violence which allowed him to be completely relaxed during physical combat which gives the insane endurance. If you take Monzon over Hagler, it's that inclination and it's implications that gives the argument substance. Same applies to Tommy, but moreso imo.

 

Monzon should win, he is probably a top 3 all time MW.
It’s a competitive fight however. Hearns was a great fighter.
Stylistically very different from MMH, Carlos Monzon would never have rushed Hearns the way Marvin did, he was good at making the other guy fight his fight. I believe that is what would happen here.
Tommy has several attributes that would make the fight interesting, speed, size, crunching power, and a great heart, but he never did anything at MW to suggest that he would be the one to beat Monzon.
Monzon and MMH have pretty comparable chins, Hearns isn’t likely stopping Monzon.
He could outbox Carlos for a time but he would take punches while doing so and eventually slow to a point he gets more and more damaged.
As the fight progressed Hearns would more and more be forced into Monzons style of fighting, he will slow down and Carlos won’t. At that point it would be a case of losing a decision or tko.
Effective aggression is hard to beat. In a war of attrition, which it would become, I am confident in a Monzon win. No easy night though.

 

How does a thread like this even get to 16 pages .. It's like people didnt follow these 2 careers. It's mind blowing how big of a mismatch this is. Hearns has zero business getting in the ring with Monzon. Dont get me wrong he would , he would get in the ring with Mike Tyson .. But this is a beat down same as Hearns would do to Mayweather ... This is Tommy's 4th best weight and a mismatch people..