Muhammad Ali vs Vitali Klitschko - Who wins?

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  1. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Young Foreman is a better scalp than VK any day. No worse than equivalent
     
  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    A 19 y/o George Foreman KO2'd the pride of the Warsaw Pact at the pinnacle of Soviet excellence/power in1968. Humiliated the product of Soviet breeding, sports science, training and ideology. No doubt chemistry as well.

    Your post is the joke. That is all. Carry on.
     
  3. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Some bitterness on here at the fact boxing has become way more global in the past 20 years!! :)

    Vitali would beat ali using his range and mastery of distance control. Vitali was also strong as an ox and paced himself unlike young George did. Not saying it would be an easy fight. Vitali wouldn’t win every round. But that thudding right hand and awkward punches would slow ali way down by the 8th or 9th and Vitali would pick him off more and more.

    Vitali isn’t those Soviet fighters that ali had that exhibition against or the ones Foreman fought in the Olympics. :lol::lol: mohammed would realize that real quick too. Vitali is WAY bigger, stronger, more skilled and rangier than all of them.

    Vitali UD 12
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Dude, I'm one of Vitali's boosters around here, but he couldn't beat LL, much less Ali. He might beat George, though. MIGHT.
     
  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali had the ring smarts, the incomparable physical attributes, the granite chin and the ability to always find a way.

    Don't back against prime Ali regardless of who is in the other corner.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Peak versions of both? Then Ali wins because he'd be too fast for Vitali.
     
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  7. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Active Member Full Member

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    Ali was too fast and too fluid for Vitali. Would frustrate and dominate him.
     
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  8. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think LL could beat Ali?? :thinking: The myth of Ali will die a slow death.

    Ali was decked by Lt HW+ Henry Cooper and, by recent/current standards, very small HW Frazier. Ali went life & death 6X facing Frazier & Norton. Frazier & Norton would be massacred by 2000s era HWs like LL, K bros, and many more. But Ali handles Vitali, Lennox, and other top 2000s HWs?! What a bizarre leap of logic... or more like faith. I'd easily pick LL and others over Ali. Many of Ali's wins were over CWs and small HWs. Look at his fight vs. Ron Lyle. Ali boxed and looked silly for most of the rounds. Ron wasn't the most fluid HW either. Ali finally had a good round going and the ref gives Ali a premature stoppage w/ Ron on his feet immediately protesting the stoppage. Most objective fans think Norton won their 3rd bout. But by that stage of Ali's career he was getting by on rep, guile (good psych game), friendly refs/ judges, and media.

    Ali didn't particularly age well either. Here's a thought experiment. Mid to late 30s Wilder* vs. mid to late 30s Ali. Who do you pick? At even money who would you bet on? An old Ali won't stop DW, he does not punch like a 270# Fury. His only slim chance is a decision. Chinny, fair engine, hard hitting Shavers rocked Ali and went the distance. Will an older Ali avoid an older DW howitzer right for 12 rounds? If Ali can't he will be stopped, TKO or a 10 count.
    * Or LL, K bros, Usyk, others.

    Ali's speed and mobility are very overrated the last quarter of his career. I'll repeat what a member posted here many years ago. What many Ali fans do is marry the best of the pre ban Ali (swift of hands & feet) with the post ban Ali (heavier, stronger, and a bit harder punch).
     
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  9. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Nope
     
  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali is tiny compared to Vitali and has no power.
    Easy win for Vitali, UD or late attrition TKO.
    Wlad KO's Ali cold though, Eddie Chambers style.

    A guy struggling with a short, crude non-HW like Frazier is getting destroyed by Klitschkos.
     
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  11. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Active Member Full Member

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    Do you think guys like Rahman and McCall would
    stop Ali too? Honest question—don’t mean it as a “gotcha.”
     
  12. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    That was in 1968 lol, and as if foreman was not on the juice as well. It is so cringe how people idolize these old fighters like 13 teenage girl justin bieber fans.
     
  13. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These fanboys pretend Ali never lost to Norton.
     
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  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There is ZERO evidence Foreman ever used or likely used PEDs.
    It's unfair & slander.
     
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  15. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali had no power?

    Tell that to the 37 guys Ali stopped - including Foreman, Frazier, Liston (twice), Patterson (twice), Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena and Folley. Heard of those guys?

    You don't need one punch power to stop people, even at heavyweight.
     
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