Where do you rank FOTC Joe Frazier at heavyweight?

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  1. Thirdtonunn24

    Thirdtonunn24 Member Full Member

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    Joe Frazier in the Fight of the Century gave the best performance of his entire career ever. But he was never the same since. Other than that. Where do you rank him at heavyweight?
     
    Thirdtonunn24, Sep 3, 2023
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    In the H2H sense?
    FOTC Frazier (peak Frazier) is below 1967 Muhammad Ali for me. Peak Frazier defeated "no longer peak" Muhammad Ali.
    Even FOTC Frazier is IMO below Kingston Foreman, Below 1988 Tyson, below 2000 Lewis, below peak Holmes (what a fight that would be), below peak Liston....
     
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  3. bboyrei

    bboyrei Member Full Member

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    Think he has a good chance of beating everyone except Foreman and Liston.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Just behind Tokyo Douglas
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Foreman is the only one who had his number. Everyone else is fair game
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    I rate him highly but sorry to say; SLIGHTLY overrated. He lost the early rounds to a very rusty Ali who looked bad against Quarry and Bonevena, until Ali got tired.

    I think the win over Ali is definitely overrated, but it's still the best version of Frazier. And the best version of Smokin Joe gives anyone a tough night
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If he meets Foreman at the time of this fight he beats him.

    He was a shooting star that shone very bright but burned out quickly, due to style and physical limitations and a penchant to party. Still, at his best, he is a rough damn night for any dude who ever entered the ring, including Foreman.
     
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  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    No version of Frazier beats prime Foreman IMO
     
    Melankomas, Sep 3, 2023
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I know many people think that and that's why I take little credence in their opinions.
     
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  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Thankfully, your opinion presents the same amount of value to me :lol:
     
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    Melankomas, Sep 3, 2023
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  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Best pfp heavyweight ever imo.
     
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Sep 3, 2023
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  12. mcvey

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    About 11th or 12th Lewis,Holyfield ,and Tyson have pushed him out of my top ten.
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If he had the same fire in his belly that he had against Ali.. He beats a hell of a lot of big names
    Or at least take em to Hell before he loses
     
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  14. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would have given most guys hell, I think he’s around number 10 all time. I think Foreman would be all wrong for him but I think he would give Holmes, Liston, Tyson, Louis, Holyfield, Wlad, Vitali, Bowe absolute hell. Lewis with Stewart in his corner would win, but Frazier could catch him like Rahman did.
     
    KINGWILDER, Sep 4, 2023
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He literally said at the time of the FOTC. I'd confidently favor Frazier over the unfinished piece in '71.
     
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