Fighters that were a waste of talent?

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  1. Salty Dog

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    worse, they utterly derailed him. robbed him of the supreme focus that allowed him his greatness.
     
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    Was there more to khan though? He was always going to struggle with his weak chin as he moved up past 140.
     
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    Based on the hype he originally got, Ricardo Williams Jr.
     
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    Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon, Corrie Sanders all to a certain extent.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    You're all wrong. Some of the names mentioned here had a great career or one in line with their abilities.

    The answer, by a million miles, is Odlanier Solis. If you've not said him, you've not got it right.
     
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    he had some talent though. Tommy hearns had a suspect chin yet he's an ATG
     
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    What happened to Besputin?
     
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    Frankie Gomez. Could have been a world champion if he had stayed disciplined outside the ring.
     
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    Dominic Guinn is a good one, he was definitely on his way to stardom but tripped in himself and fell flat! I ran into him at a nightclub when he still was undefeated, cool guy but you could tell he was lacking focus.
     
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    There's good and even great careers that could still have been better, though...

    I stand by Hamed as one that didn't fulfil his potential - he had a good career, maybe even great (certainly in the entertainment stakes) but I do think he could've done more if he'd stepped up sooner.

    There's little a fighter like Amir Khan could've done to achieve more when his limiting factor was his chin, that was always going to mean he couldn't go any further than he did... Hamed on the other hand had a limited number of fights in him due to his glass hands and love of food - if he'd skipped past a few mediocre opponents, he could've been seen very differently now.
     
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    Hamed potentially could have stepped up his competition, but look at that level sat above him, MAB, EM, JMM and Pac. He got as far as he could tbh.

    Even still he's clearly one of the greatest fighters ever from Britain. He's a great FW. He only lost one, he beat every man holding a belt in the FW division and politics aside completely unfiied every title claim in the division
     
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    The point I'm trying to make is that Hamed was already well past his best by the time he fought MAB - and the fact he was so thoroughly outclassed in that declined state potentially hides what he could have achieved if he'd fought those guys a year or two before the MAB fight...

    I'm not saying he wins them all, but I think most would've been competitive, and he might well have won some - I guess what I'm saying is that I think he'd have potentially been seen as "in" that bracket rather than below it (as he is now, generally).

    It's one of those, though, that was probably always destined to happen - I mean, he was what, 27? 28? at the time of the MAB fight and basically shot physically... You just don't plan out careers expecting any boxer to have to achieve everything by 25/26 because you don't expect them to decline physically that rapidly in their mid-late twenties.
     
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    David Tua- Had a respectable career but could have been much better had he stayed off the food and was matched better.
    Definitely one of the better heavies that never won a strap.

    Anthony Mundine- The Man still whooped a few people but had he not played Rugby League in his early years he could have been much better. Could have been a goat candidate he had that much talent. Probably one of the best cross code athletes of the modern era.
     
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    Ivan Dychko, can't believe a top promoter hasn't ever signed him.

    And Billy Joe Saunders, he's basically messed around his whole career and still become a 2 weight world champ. Imagine how good Saunders would have been with discipline/motivation and if he was active.
     
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    Timothy Bradley brought into the **** that people were talking after the first fight with Pac and he fought like he had something to prove. He didn't. Beat him fair and square imo. Way too eager to trade punches and brawl instead of boxing and moving. If he did that a 2nd time he would have beat him again.

    Like The Horn fight, imo nothing controversial about it. He lost to them both. And should have lost to Marquez at least once? Glad he got K.O'd hard. Marquez was owed that.