Who wins in their prime?

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Who wins in their prime?

Poll closed Sep 25, 2023.
  1. Tyson

    37.7%
  2. Foreman

    62.3%
  1. Boxingiq2020

    Boxingiq2020 Active Member Full Member

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    What do you guys think?
     
  2. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    ill take comeback foreman over tyson. They never fought for good reason.
     
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  3. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I voted Tyson without thinking, my head says Foreman is all wrong for him, but I’ll stick with my pick
     
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  4. Mickea4

    Mickea4 Active Member Full Member

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    What are we calling prime for Foreman? Physical prime Foreman, I'm taking Tyson, comeback foreman with the experience and pacing.... I'm not so sure
     
  5. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Tyson due to both speed and power from either hand. KO1.
     
  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    IMO - Foreman (although I realize Tyson is no Frazier). This fantasy fight is also an eternal question for me:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/prime-mike-tyson-88-vs-prime-george-foreman-73.679611/
    Tyson's peak is undoubtedly 1988 (the prime lasts a bit longer), Foreman's peak is 1973, and the first half of 1974.
    I'm personally more inclined to favor Foreman in this fantasy fight.
    1987 (Mike Tyson in prime, but not yet peak) Mike Tyson won the WBA belt in a fight with James Smith, and the IBF belt in a fight with Tony Tucker. And both Tyson's opponents met the end of the fight on their feet. Foreman, however, is a different kind of beast than the aforementioned two.
    Not only do I think prime Foreman (in 1987) would have seen the end of the fight with Tyson on his feet, but he would have won. Foreman has a better chin than either of them. On the other hand, if James Smith and Tony Tucker were sent in a time machine to 1973 to challenge Foreman for the title, I don't think they would have seen the end of the fight on their feet.
    But that's just my opinion.
     
  7. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Foreman all day every day. The worst matchup for Tyson against a guy he cannot intimidate or out slug.
     
  8. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Yep. I’ve always said 2nd career Foreman was better than young Foreman. Not as fan friendly to watch maybe! But overall better. Old Foreman has a shot to land something late on Tyson and pour it on for a finish.

    Young George would fight fire with fire and get caught like against Lyle. Only Tyson (Prime Tyson) was a better finisher than Ron. Hit harder too.
     
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  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    agree, comeback foreman fought with alot more intelligence.
     
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  10. Inevitability

    Inevitability New Member Full Member

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    Tyson. Too fast and explosive for ol' George.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Foreman for me, horrible style match up for Tyson.

    Foreman had a physical style, much like how he pushed and pulled Frazier around he would do the same with Tyson. Because Tyson fights squared up, he's easily pushed back unlike someone in a more bladed stance. Plenty of fighters gave Tyson problems by being physical with him, Tucker, Holyfield, Douglas and Lewis. That squared up stance while making Tyson great at cutting off the ring on opponents who want to move away, against fighters that wanted to manhandle him it exposed as weakness in his style and Foreman was great at controlling faster but smaller opponents with his techniques, many of which he picked up from sparring with Liston the same Liston who crushed Patterson who was also trained by Tyson's trainer D'Amato.

    That along with Foreman's power, body punching and especially uppercuts for me gives Foreman a clear style advantage. Tyson would no doubt have some success, his speed and power would trouble Foreman but in the end Foreman constantly pushing, framing, posting, collar tying would leave Tyson unable to set to throw as he's constantly pushed out of position and eventually backed up. One of Foreman's big uppercuts would likely hurt him and Foreman then piles it on and grinds him down and stops him.
     
  12. Unique Way

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    Foreman

    Tyson resembles Frazier a lot both in size and style. Fighters like that were tailor made for Big George, unlike boxers/movers like Ali and Young (and potentially Holmes)
     
  13. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both versions of Foreman destroy Tyson inside 6.
     
  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    This is what AI technology is meant for. Give me AI boxing simulator.
     
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  15. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    Another Foreman vs Frazier match up