Was GGG the worst post fight interview in boxing history?

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, it goes both ways. GGG wouldnt take catchweights to fight Canelo or Cotto so those fights were delayed. And GGG came to US at 28 years old - his decision. None of the fights he got were really delayed tbh. He earned a belt and began unifying and he got Jacobs when he did. Afterward there was holdup for Cotto/Canelo due to their fight and weight discrepancy (GGG wouldnt take a catchweight but required one of Ward). Had GGG took the catchweight he fights Cotto/Canelo sooner and had he taken Ward at 168, who knows? Maybe a bonafide ATG.

    It is an absolute myth that everyone ducked GGG. Lara always wanted the fight and was outright ignored. Ward needed to compromise weight @ 164 even though GGG would fight Froch and JCC Jr at 168 and refused a CW for Canelo...despite offering Rosado a CW. Yeah, GGG was a bit of a prima donna and that "good boy" act was...an act.
     
  2. MoneyMay1

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    Where is this catchweight nonsense coming from? Canelo was a 160 lbs fighter. He fought JCC Jr. at 165 lbs BEFORE the GGG fight. Canelo could have easily gone to 160 if he wanted
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lara nor his team ever made realistic offers. All they did was mention him on twitter and IG. Pro wrestling style call outs are meaningless.

    Reason he was OK w/ 168 against Froch or JCCjr was, both those guys had enough drawing power to make their own stipulations on weight. Ward had no such clout. Hell, Ward was out for most of that time due to his injury/lawsuit, and when he actually returned, said 168 was no longer viable to make. There was nothing wrong with a 164 non-title fight if Ward actually wanted it.

    If 3G's 'good guy' persona was an act, we'd have heard more about him being a dick to others.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    It's simple. Ward said 168. When GGG said OK, Ward refused.

    Ward had refused the GGG fight before. This was the second time.

    Golovkin should have insisted he come down to 160 if he wanted a bite and then called him a ducker when he didn't.
     
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  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    No. Joshua losing was way worse. How weird was that.
     
  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto won MW belt from Sergio Martinez @ 159, defended against Geale and won via stoppage at 157, COTTO WANTED 155 against Canelo (Canelo agreed) and Canelo won. Canelo was given 30 days (or something ridiculous) to negotiate a fight vs GGG. GGG said no catchweight so Canelo moved on, beat Smith at 154 then beat JCC Jr at 165 before fighting GGG at 160 (~1 year later).

    GGG offered Rosado a CW of 158 (which Rosado turned down) but wouldnt accept any CW versus Cotto/Canelo...so GGG having to "wait" and/or "being ducked" was partially self-imposed.

    GGG also famously challenged Froch and JCC Jr at 168 but required 164 for Ward.

    With GGG there was a LOT of catchweight nonsense...and thats without mentioning how GGG/Abel said Danny Jacobs cheated by skipping the morning weigh-in for their fight...to be clear, Danny Jacobs did NOT cheat but he did relinquish his belt per (I think it was IBF) sanctioning rules.
     
  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is purely speculation on your part - you dont know. At all.

    https://www.*******.com/de-la-hoya-golovkin-want-lara-canelo-beat-him--104141

    Are you on GGGs PR team? Ward was literally undisputed at 168 and being talked about as ATG at 168 and yet you rationalize how its okay for GGG to demand 164 for Ward but accept 168 for Froch and JCC Jr? Yeah, no, that's a DUCK.

    What are you talking about? There's very little anyone knows about boxers outside the ring unless they show people. Manny and Floyd are perfect examples of that. GGG was no different than any other fighter (from what we know) and his good boy innocence was a marketing tactic. Dude was just as much prima donna as any other fighter given his negotiations/weight demands...and it was GGG saying, "anyone from 154-168...but Andre Ward at 164".

    Again, GGG a great champion and borderline ATG for me but a lot of his schtick was an act. He never hurt Jacobs, Canelo, or Dervenchenko other than 2 flash KDs against Danny and Dervenchenko and Danny was known to be chinny. GGG was robbed against Canelo in fight 1 and shouldve had a draw in fight 2 but he also got very beneficial judging in Jacobs and Dervenchenko fights...
     
  9. bjl12

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    GGG demanded 164 for Ward and Andre moved on. Then once Ward moved up GGG pretended he wanted the fight and Ward made it clear he moved on.

    GGG had insufferable fans like you so I wasnt too mad Canelo won the rematch (it shouldve been a draw) but GGG storming out like a child was priceless.
     
  10. BCS8

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    So, he ducked Golovkin at 168. Gotcha
     
  11. MrPook

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    When he says “Not chess, big drama show” I think he means to say: I am not playing chess, I am here to knock mother****ers the **** out!!
     
  12. The Real Lance

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    dead link....

    If it was for a non-title fight, sure. Do you even understand that if you are a draw, you can make certain concessions? Froch and JCCjr were HUGE draws compared to Ward, who couldn't even sell out an are. Besides, when could it have been made? When Ward was out w/ a shoulder injury or when he came back at a LtHW?


    So you just speculate that he's what? Not a nice guy?? Because of some negotiation demands?? Little thin of skin aren't you to be offended by that.

    This has been done a MILLION times. 3G was trying to unify 160. That was his goal. So why would he go to a title shot at 168 when he had not completed his goal? It's not hard to see, so long as you aren't some jaded poster.

    So you think he got beneficial scoring. That is somehow his fault??
     
  13. The Real Lance

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    :lol: He 'pretended'... jesus. Only thing worse than insufferable fans are insufferable haters who can't be objective. What fans think should have NO factor in to a boxer you like/dislike. But you seem to allow fans of 3G to make that decision for you. Try thinking for yourself instead of letting other fans do it for you.

    BTW, When Ward moved up...he was out prior due to an injury and his promoter issues. So when could 3G v Ward have been made? Ward said he had trouble making 168, hence the return at LtHW. So....when?
     
  14. bjl12

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    you cant use ******* for unknown reasons...simply replace asterisks w *******.

    Fight was being discussed prior to LHW move hence why Ward repeatedly said he would not move back down afterward.

    The dude complained about the noise in Canelo's lockerroom and the length of Canelo's beard. That in addition to complaining about catchweights but offering them when they convenienced him...yeah, he's a prima donna just like most other fighters. Big surprise.

    If GGGs goal was just to unify at 168 then why was he calling out Froch and JCC Jr? Cant you see that you have to contradict yourself when defending GGG? Just the kind of guy/boxer he was...

    Not at all. Just about EVERY fighter experiences it. Just cant stand the STANS (whether its Manny, Floyd, GGG, Canelo, Spence, whoever) that pretend "their guy" is infallible. Theyre all imperfect and all shouldve/couldve lost/lost more. Doesnt mean they werent great in their own rights.
     
  15. m.s.

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    He won clearly vs Jacobs, tough fight for sure though, no controversy. I think maybe Jacobs had an issue with it.