Prime Cleveland Williams vs Prime Tommy Morrison

Williams had a number of KO losses and frankly I wouldn't put a tuppence on his chin against Morrison who was a shattering puncher. Tommy had also been in there with much bigger dudes than Williams' typical opposition and acquitted himself well. Frankly I'd take wins over Thomas, Tillis, Foreman, Hipp, Williams and Ruddock over a draw with Machen and a win over Terrell.

They are both somewhat glass cannons but Morrison's highs seem higher to me. I'm not one of the guys that thinks Williams is a fraud btw. He looks good on film and had Liston in trouble early on with his smooth, powerful and accurate punching. It just seems to me that once Liston stood up to him and landed a few good ones Williams fell to pieces. On the other hand I remember the horribly underrated Yuri Vaulin was giving Tommy the what-for and frankly handily outboxing him. Morrison clung in there and eventually made his power tell. Morrison has been in some wars and won. That to me is the difference.

 

Was in the middle of writing a response and accidently clicked on another link. Will respond later, as I'm very aggravated.

 

Pre Bullet Cleveland Williams beats Post Rocky Tommy Morrison.
Pre Rocky, No Partying Tommy Morrison beats Post Bullet Cleveland Williams.

 

After reading the above, I'm sure your post was well-intended, and no way an attempt to ignite racial tensions.

Also, fyi King was not high on PCP. Shows how little you know about the case. The officers "thought" (more likely they were just using it as an excuse to justify there actions) he was on PCP but he tested negative.

On another note, I'm very puzzled as why you feel the need to lie regarding King's attack. Such as these laughable claims that he fought with police. You realize we have video of the encounter, right? At 0 point does King appear to resist, let alone fight with the police. Even if he'd done so prior to the video (witnesses say he didn't resist), they'd beaten him far past the point, where he'd be even a remote threat to them.

The most laughable thing about this case, is the police officers were so adamant King was driving in excess of 120MPH, which prompted the CEO of Hyundai himself to write the LA times, and say their cars don't even go that fast.

 

Of course you're not going to argue it. You can't dispute anything I said and can't even deny you're a blatantly racist pos.

 

Here we go.

 

How about prime for prime like the thread asks?

 

I would go with Morrison. Cleveland Williams was not better than Ray Mercer. But I would not bet any money since Morrison was too unreliable.
70% chance of winning for Morrison, let's remember his Foreman's perfomance.

 

Where he ran all night like a coward from a geriatric morbidly obese man?

 

Hey, c´mon, that is not true, Foreman won the belt in the very next fight. He was smarter than Moorer.

 

It's not what I want to believe. The evidence is literally right there in your posts, and previous ones where you claimed Jefferson Davis was a hero.

The fact that you haven't denied it once, is pretty telling also.

 

I look at it this way. Somehow I think Williams could've managed to somehow hang on, for the entirety of a round against ATG Michael Bentt.

I highly highly doubt Morrison takes the shots Williams did against Liston, and remains conscious or even alive for that matter.

Tillis was 1-5 in his last 6, including losses to obscure fighters.

He had to break his streak by cherry picking Carlton West (no not the guy from Fresh Prince of Bel Air) who was 11-38 and was so bad he was actually permanently suspended from fighting after suffering 13 KO losses in a row.

Thomas was also 1-5 with his only win also coming over an obscure name, at the end of his atrocious career. Thomas hadn't had a good win in 6 years.

Already went into the Ruddock bout.

Hipp was an 11 to 1 underdog, who broke Morrison's jaw and came razor close to pulling off an upset. Very odd you're using this fight to hype up Morrison. Has Hipp had one win of significance?

Williams was at the end of his career, and also losing to obscure names by that point, and still dropped Morrison twice, and was nearly knocked out himself.

Seeing a pattern?

Was just in the process of bringing up many instances in which Williams showed heart (including coming back from a near-fatal gunshot wound where he died 6 times on the operating table and withered down to 160 pounds), when I realized by admitting, Yuri ****ing Vaulin was "giving Tommy the what-for and frankly handily outboxing him" it speaks wonders about his supposedly underrated skills you were boasting about.