Roy Jones Jr vs James Toney - Underrated win for Roy ?

It was a push

 

Roy beat five guys on that list.

 

Forgetting James Toney win i think alot of Jones's wins are overlooked.

Thomas Tate = Went 12 hard rounds with Julian Jackson, Jones destroyed him in 2 rounds.

Jorge Castro = Very good win for an upcoming RJJ, would go on to capture the Middleweight title after losing to RJJ beating the likes of Reggie Johnson, John David Jackson.

Julio Cesar Gonzalez = Upset long reigning champion 48-0 Dariusz Michalczewski, RJJ toyed with Gonzalez.

Thulani Malinga = Should've had two wins over Nigel Benn, beat Robin Reid, Jones the only man to KO him in his prime.

Reggie Johnson = All of his losses were very close decisions, RJJ was the only one who ever dominated him with ease.

Clinton Woods = Only stopped once in 48 fights by RJJ.

As i've said before if RJJ retired after Ruiz fight some people would've listed him as a top 10 ATG.

 

It was a VERY good win for Roy. James Toney was already being looked upon as one of the best pound for pound boxers in the world at that time and Jones made him look like a third rater.

 

It was not a great win and that's due to Toney being at best 70% for that fight. He looked awful and was severely drained from having to lose so much weight and I recall hearing he had to have take IV's instead of eating to make weight. What I think is interesting is why Roy didn't stop the corpse that was in front of him. He seemed content to take a UD.

 

Toney looked like a million bucks prior to the fight with Jones, knocking out Charles Williams with a picture perfect right hand.

If Toney can't motivate himself in his biggest fight a few months later vs RJJ that's on him. That takes nothing away from the status Toney had and RJJ schooled him.

As for stopping Toney ? Well since Toney was never stopped in 92 fights, with his career ranging from Middleweight to Heavyweight I don't see how it's a negative that Jones didn't stop Toney ? When far bigger men couldn't even come close to doing it vs a fat James Toney.

 

imo rated about right.

toney shat the bed, not roy's fault but you can only beat the guy in the other corner.

 

Toney and Hopkins were both far cries from the brilliant, sage & crafty fighters they would mature into, but defeating not just one but both of them at arguably their athletic peaks (pre-prime or not) is a hell of thing to have done. It isn't as though either of them had a low ring IQ in the mid 90s.

 

i never mentioned hopkins and you ignored what i said about the toney fight.

 

Who underrates that win? It was a great victory that helped propel RJJ's P4P status and also becoming the ATG fighter that he is.

 

a) didn't say you mentioned Hopkins. I did. I'm lumping them both together as underrated victories, each over a future ATG whom didn't hold a candle to his later self but was still quite formidable and laudable to have defeated in 1993/1994.

b) respectfully, you didn't say anything that merited a response? That in your opinion Toney "shat the bed". Okay, so? It wasn't the best version of him, wasn't his best night at the office, and he would get exponentially greater in later years. Again, so what? 1993 James Toney is still a hell of a scalp. Saying otherwise is weird.

 

id agree with that with other posts added, hop wasn't what he would become.

yeah, it wasn't the best version of toney. saying otherwise is weird. i'd disagree in terms of career arc, toney was better before and after. the fact he trained like an idiot isn't some biased ****, it is actaully what happened