Fury admits he is avoiding Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by spravedlivylev, Aug 31, 2023.


"It's not fair that Usyk won because..."

  1. Fury was untrained

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  2. Fury had ring rust

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  3. Paris is pregnant again, Fury was distracted

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  4. it's not prime Fury any more, prime Fury would have won

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  5. it's his "men'al 'elf" again

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  1. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think its tolerated cause the wbc is corrupt and a joke organisation tgat makes money of Fury or or forced by his shady connections.
    Either way, they aint stripping him. Wilder and AJ wont fight either l.
    Just dont consider wbc a real belt and its solved.
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually rated Fury for a long time. When I saw him against Chisora in their rematch I felt he had the tools to maybe beat Wlad and when he did I was impressed with the performance, even though the fight hardly was a classic. Then I was sad to hear that he retired and hoped he would come back.

    And when he did, Wilder after two easy tune-ups seemed like a pretty gutsy challenge, one he should have won. After that I was a little disappointed that he followed up against two unranked fighters, but a rematch with Wilder seemed like the right course.

    Then I started to tire of him with all his incessant talk of walking away from the prolonged negotiations with Joshua, but I didn't blame him when Wilders rematch clause came in the way (now I feel distinctly less sure about how much of an accident that really was).

    After that he really started to **** the bed, though. Retiring and unretiring after Whyte, then changing the date for facing Joshua and ending up with Chisora instead. Him running his mouth about how Usyk was ducking him, just like he'd done about Joshua, was also tiring, but I still thought they'd make the fight in the end.

    When he demanded 70-30 and wasn't even satisfied with that and lied about being in camp etc. I was truly disgusted with him, and after that he has only made things worse.
     
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  3. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    As a reminder Jermall Charlo is still WBC champion even though he has not boxed for more than two years.
     
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  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I think that's different. Casuals don't know (and most probably don't care) who Charlo is. But the heavies gets the most exposure out of all the divisions. It's a marquee division for a reason so WBC gets more under public scrutiny for the way the deal (or rather not deal) with the Fury situation.
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just a guess, they will only strip him if Wilder/Joshua get made, to sanction it as their vacant title bout.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    That's exactly why Fury ducking Usyk is the worst duck in boxing history. At least Bowe gave up the belt so others can fight for it.

    And don't give me your nonsense about the plastic belts and whatnot. There's a reason saggy tits is holding to it like no tomorrow. Championship belts are what this whole thing is about, belts give you status, fame, money and legacy. What, do you think if this "plastic belts" nonsense had any merit, Fury would ever have faced someone like Wlad?

    Fury was still fighting almost exclusively at home, made little more than pennies and nobody cared about him at word level even after 24 fights. His career was going nowhere without a belt. Belts are where it's at so you might as well just stop this lousy act of trying to undersell their value. You clearly just do it because Fury is a worthless champion who never defended multiple belts and is holding on to his single belt due to the WBC's corruption.
     
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  7. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny how according to Warren and Fury belts don’t matter yet all we have heard about since 2018 is the mythical “Lineal champion”
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Lineal title doesn't have a plastic belt to represent it and is the most sought after and most worthy accolade in boxing. It's the OG achievement, to be the man who beat the man which is historically going back to caveman times how men decided who was the grand daddy. People can cry all they want that the lineal ship was broken yada yada but there is precedent to determine these things and Fury still today regardless of all the riff raff is still the Lineal champ which is worth more than any plastic belt.
     
  9. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Y'all can blame Floyd Mayweather for Tyson Fury's cowardice and disgusting duck of Oleksandr Usyk.
     
  10. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So when Fury retires undefeated what happens to the lineal title?
     
  11. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If this is not ducking then nothing is.
    Its the biggest duck in boxing history and worse than bowe vs lewis.
    He did this to himself. It would even be fine if he vacates but holding the belt hostage, running his mouth and acting like Usyk is running from him makes it way worse.
    You rarely see that much cowardice from a fighter.

    This guy??
    https://youtube.com/shorts/iVwF5oKQ7kY?si=ErZKYZsaeV3a4z9E
     
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  12. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I always think about that insult rant he performed to Usyk after the Chisora fight...
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  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    And/or unwilling to take the risk of doing all that hard work and still potentially losing... which would be even more damaging to his ego than turning up unfit and losing.

    Ducking is absolutely the right word.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Partly because so many fell for the Wilder hypejob - they thought that beating Wilder meant Fury was a serious fighting man and worthy/capable of becoming that dominant champion... perhaps Fury only took that fight all along knowing how fraudulent that narrative was and that it'd allow him to ride on a false reputation of his own, not having had to truly earn it?
     
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  15. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Don’t pay attention to him. He is obviously pushing this nonsense Fury narrative. While in reality, as everything else about Fury, it’s fake. The lineal thing has been the biggest bogus in boxing folklore and only casuals with no historical knowledge would lap it up (enters miniq).

    The lineage doesn’t even go back directly to John L. Sullivan of course. It’s been broken multiple times. Just to give you two examples: Rocky Marciano retired a champion. There was no man who beat him. Then a new lineage started with Patterson. That lineage ended when Lennox Lewis retired a champion, having avenged both of his losses. How on Earth do the ogre and his casual cult members think that the lineage goes back 130 years then?

    Of course, Fury is talking about this lineal nonsense because he has nothing else left to gaslight the casual fanboys with. Only six title fights, three against the same one-trick-pony, only three title defences, never defended more than one belt etc. And now his public profile took an immense dive to boot. So he returned to this lineal this, lineal that nonsense, and his vassals keep parroting it.

    And the worst thing for Fury fans is this: in theory, the lineal is Usyk. When Fury „retired due to his men’al ’elf issues” (it was a PED ban but whatever), the same thing happened as when Marciano and Lewis retired. If you are out of the game for any reason = the lineage gets broken and a new one is started. Klitschko and Joshua clashed for this new lineage. Joshua won who then was subsequently defeated by Usyk. So not only Fury’s lineage doesn’t go back 130 years, it’s Usyk who is the new lineal champion now.

    But as I said, this lineal thing is just a gimmick, always has been. It was a gimmick when an ancient Foreman marketed himself with it after getting stripped in 1995. According to his argument, Michael Moorer was the lineal whom he then beat and hence became the new lineal :D Michael Moorer. Lineal champion. Imagine that. Then Shannon Briggs beat Foreman. What, so then Briggs became the lineal? :D

    This whole lineal thing is utter nonsense only parroted by trolls and casuals.
     
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