Was Joe Joyce a hypejob all along? Zhang rematch will say all that needs to be said.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JackTheChamp123, Sep 15, 2023.


  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Why is this necessary? All you have to do is compare him to others.
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Joyce needs to make all the adjustments, Big Bang what he does very well get that fast big left hand in all the time and its accurate, you need to avoid it. Outwork him and let him blow a casket.

    Joyce isnt the most evasive, he will have to land first.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Big Bang has changed things up and brought in a new S&C for this fight. His new one has apparently, according to a comment I read online, ''had him abandon the weightlifting that made him strong af in favor of heavy cardio and fitness exercises using medicine balls and tiny weights.''

    If something isn't broken, does one really need to fix it? Big Joe did the same thing before the first fight, hiring a new S&C coach who had zero prior experience working with a slow-fast speed fighter, let alone a GOAT one :facepalm:
     
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  4. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Casual lol. Ok pal.

    Sure post some more drivel if you like.
     
  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    What's the point of discussion forums if not for people to post opinions, many of which will be rubbish... seeing nonsense corrected is educational for some readers in itself, or prompt people to re-examine their opinions.

    The idea that no-one should have an opinion is just ridiculous - withhold your own if you like, you have that right of course... and no-one can tell you that you have to value your own opinion either... but that post was just so antithetical to the whole point of the place you posted it I couldn't help but reply.
     
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  6. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You didn't disappoint lol
     
  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    What a waste of skin... at least no longer a waste of time.
     
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  8. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jeez, what would be the point of a boxing forum if we can’t, you know, talk about boxing?
     
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  9. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your right but sometimes when I see people with zero boxing experience criticising somebody with boxing experience, I just think opinions need to be slightly respectful of the boxer. I'm pissing into the wind because there's rarely any respect shown to boxers on this forum.
     
  10. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Well I mean.. according to some on here Usyk is massively overrated and hasn’t “Proved enough” at heavyweight so… Dummies are gonna Dumb. Is what it is!

    But Joyce is a good fighter. Just not the unstoppable killer he was made out to be by many. But he’s a solid fighter.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Mark my words. Zhang is going to KO Joyce in rematch.
     
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  12. Boxcel

    Boxcel Member Full Member

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    I saw some of the training footage. Looks like they're working on some weaknesses with his overall conditioning but it's still possible that his lack of stamina is genetic and it leads to only marginal improvements to his endurance. With Joyce his new coach made him come in lighter leaner and more "in shape" but it didn't improve his speed at all
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even in the last 23 years he isn't even close to biggest hype job, Broner as I said was far more hyped.

    Yeah Sky glorified him as did all the fans that jumped on the bandwagon after he beat Parker. But that's a networks job to promote a fighter, they all do it to their fighters to try and make them draws. Only idiots believe the hype.

    I don't belittle or attack, I simply criticised there is a difference. I still think Joyce can beat Hrgovic, styles makes fights. Hrgovic isn't a southpaw or a counter puncher he won't be able to do what Zhang did.
     
  14. SeanK

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    Idk about overrated but he’s now 37 (actually 38 in a few days), so one has to wonder how much time he has to make any real noise.
     
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  15. JackTheChamp123

    JackTheChamp123 Member banned Full Member

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    Southpaw is matter of tecnique, in which Hrgovic is better (as shown). Joyce was completly ouboxed as a figher, not as an ortodox fighter, he boxed frauds and Zhang is his first real opponent. Joyce tecnique failed, his stamina failed, his defense in terms of body integrity failed, so did his spirit.

    Downplaying his loss because opponent is soutpaw is a little weak argument. I get it you are a fan, of course you think Joyce is better than Hrgovic, I see it in your comments. But you cant deny he did duck him.