Did Dutch Sam really invent the uppercut?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Every website I see credits Dutch Sam with inventing the uppercut, then referred to as the undercut. Is there any truth to this?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Almost certainly not.

    The uppercut is probably as old as street fighting.
     
  3. BCS8

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    no.

    It was Gronk vs Ug in 132000 b.c in the famous fight over the brontotherium shinbone.
     
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  4. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trying to say the first time you saw something as basic as a punch was its first instance in reality in something as elemental as fist-fighting is more than a bit daft.

    What's more likely is he used the punch a lot.
     
  5. Melankomas

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    Did any manuals prior to Dutch Sam have the uppercut? Did anyone from Broughton-Cribb mention it?
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought he invented the Dutch Oven and Double-Dutch jumprope.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    He might have named it. Or been the first to legitimize it in organized fighting. But it’s hard to believe that in all of human history that he was the FIRST to figure out that a punch could be thrown in an upward motion
     
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  8. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Didn't Ancient Greeks box during 8th century BC to around 400 CE? You're really telling me that during that time period not a single boxer was like "Hmm perhaps I should throw a punch with an upwards motion with my arm bent"

    All claims of "Inventor of *insert punch*" are dumb.
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

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    It's an ancient primal punch. I've seen kids with no training do sloppy uppercuts in street fights.

    As far as refining the uppercut with sharpness, timing, proper leverage, etc that's a different discussion.
     
  10. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Round by round report of Mendoza-Humphries on Sept. 29, 1790:

    36. Mendoza struck Humphries in the face. Followed it up by an under blow. Humphries fell.
    37. Closed. Humphries grasped Mendoza. Struck under blows with his right arm, and with his left at his body. Mendoza holding Humphries with his left, returned in the face, with his right hand; and Humphries being nearest the rails in this close contest, had his head hit against them, and fell.
    46. Mendoza struck over Humphries's guard at his face. Humphries returned, and, being about to fall, Mendoza struck an under blow, before he could accomplish his purpose. [Some hissing, succeeded by clapping.]
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Enter James J Corbett inventor of the left hook.
     
  12. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it’s probably as old as caveman getting into a fight.