At what point did Canelo Alvarez surpass his HOF opponents legacies?

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  1. Manfred

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    Come on man with that yak, Muscle in not the main weight, It's the bones. Canelo got big bones and a sturdier frame to handle the weight. Like I said, they started at different weight classes. That should tell you something. Canelo is naturally the bigger fighter and was able to go up further. Canelo didn't bulk up, he just couldn't stay down. Canelo walks around at 180 or more lbs. Mayweather stayed within his limitations. He didn't compromise his skills and movement just for the sake of going up. When he fought Cotto at 154, he came in at 152. Mayweather fought many fighters that were taller than himself, As a matter of fact, if you average out the height of the fighters he fought, it would be that he fought fighters on the average that were his height. Hernandez was 5'11, Oscar was 5'10.5" Corrales was 5'10.5". Baldimor was 5'5.5", Hatton was 5'6" and Marquez was 5'7". You on some hating BS and don't know what you talking about.
     
  2. Boxcel

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    Obviously canelo has the naturally heavier frame, but it's obvious why Mayweather found his limit to be a select few fighters from 154. You had to go all the way to his super featherweight days to find someone 5'11, really?

    I'd say the average height of his opponents decreased as he moved to welterweight lol! Taller guys at lower weights are weak compared to the higher weights
     
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  4. C.J.

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    1....... Canelo NEVER legitimately beat GGG He just got two gifts from the Vegas mafia Heck if GGG had taken fight 3 seriously he'd have stopped Canelo. At 40+ he went 12 rounds with Ginger & at the final bell still looked fresh as a daisy Ginger was EXHAUSTED!! out on his feet
     
  5. shadow111

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    . . . because he didn't come to FIGHT !! He came to be a punching bag. :cool:

    Not hard to be fresh as a daisy when you stand there covering up for 12 rounds . . .

    Mr. Big Drama Show did not give a Big Drama show !!
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    If GGG was only a punching bag why didn't your awesome Ginger Freak knock him out like he said he was going to ??? ROFLMAO.!! GGG played with Ginger, almost like Ali used to do it. Really GGG exposed Ginger yet again. He came out like a wild man punching air mostly while GGG teased him. If GGG was serious in that fight he could easily have stopped Ginger ROFL Ginger was KNACKERED as they say in England GGG was unmarked fresh as a daisy at 40+ really he exposed Ginger for the fraud he is
     
  7. shadow111

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    LOL because first of all, GGG has a hell of a chin, good defense and he's never been down in his entire career. It's hard to knock someone out who's covering up and in survival mode from the opening bell. If you really want the truth I think Canelo felt sorry for him and took it easy on him.
    So then why didn't he? Why did he put up such a pathetic performance? You must have been terribly disappointed by how one-sided that was.
     
  8. C.J.

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    ROFLMAO Youre insane my friend. Canelo was made to look like a hack by a 40+ fighter who literally just played with him. There wasn't a mark on GGG but Ginger was marked up I wonder if the ref was hitting him if GGG wasn't lol
     
  9. ElCyclon

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    LOL

    You live in your own little bubble.
     
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  10. C.J.

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    Hey Shadow maybe it was like Tex Cobb said when he fought Earnie Shavers. Tex said every punch from Earnie shook him to the bone. Tex trainer George said " Don't worry Tex he's aint hurting you " Tex said " If he aint then you better watch that goddamn ref then George coz somebody is" ROFLMAO Maybe the ref was hitting Ginger lol
     
  11. C.J.

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    LOL Its a great little bubble too
     
  12. shadow111

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    :risas3:

    GGG was playing with him, huh, while being rocked with shots, while getting visibly marked up across his face (which Jacobs on commentary clearly pointed out) while losing round after round, he was getting totally outclassed, it was an embarrassing performance from GGG. He did his little mini-rally in the last 3 or 4 rounds, but it was a complete domination over the first 8 rounds and by the time GGG started to fight, it was way too late.

    You were always big on fighters coming to FIGHT CJ, that was your big thing. Well GGG didn't. And he didn't play with Canelo lol, it was pretty much target practice for Canelo. One of his easiest and most one-sided fights ever. Fact is, GGG didn't put up a fight, he just came to collect a paycheck. GGG just didn't bring it that night. He laid down to his conquerer, Canelo, and it was a sad sad night for GGG and his fans.
     
  13. Manfred

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    The fact is that Canelo is a much bigger fighter than Mayweather. Bottom line. You said he didn't fight tall people but he has. You said his opponents heights decreased at welter but again you are wrong. The fighters he fought at welter were roughly his height. Do the math. If you can't substantiate what you say then you just yaking.
     
  14. Boxcel

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    Did you even read my post? Smh

    Let's see his welter/super welter run
    5'6 baldomir, 5'6 Judah, 5'5 Hatton, 5'6 Marquez, 5'8 mosley, 5'8 ortiz, 5'5 Pacquiao. 5'7 maidana, 5'6 cotto, 5'8 gueroro, 5'6 berto, 5'7 canelo, 5'10 odhl. Your greatest boxer of all time lady's and gentleman.

    Lmaooo. Meanwhile canelo out here fighting 6'1 mfs and legit 6'3 callum smith.

    Tell me how a boxer can be considered goat when almost all fights they had they had physical advantages loll. I'd like to see how Mayweather would handle a run against boxers over 6 foot at 154 and beyond
     
  15. Manfred

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    Canelo is 5'8, Marquez is 5'7' Berto is 5'6.5 Mosley is 5'9". You lying again. You keep trying to make a point with lies and I ain't buying. Like I said, Canelo walks around right now at 180 or more. He had to go up. Dwight Quawi was 5;5" and a light heavyweight. It is about the frame and Canelo has a big frame. What does that tell you. He can't box with boxers, His two losses were to boxers. Mayweather and Bivol embarrassed his ass.