Carl " The Truth" Williams vs Mike Tyson question

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  1. drronnie

    drronnie Member Full Member

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    After having done so well against Larry Holmes. What mistake did Williams do to get knocked out by Tyson so early or was he already a shot fighter at that point?
     
  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    He dropped his right hand to his waist when he jabbed. Early in the fight Williams say that Tyson was looking to slip the jab and close distance. Williams started looking for a right uppercut after Tyson slipped the jab; Carl dropped his right hand to throw that punch.
    Williams had that habit throughout his career- dropping his right hand to his waist when exchanging punches.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Tyson was a different beast. It's like asking what did Joe Frazier do wrong vs Foreman and not Ali. Totally different scenarios.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Spot on. And Williams chin was always going to get cracked at some point against prime Tyson.
     
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  5. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He ran into a wall in a young,motivated Tyson. Nothing he could've done to beat him that night and no shame as Tyson was deadly then.
     
  6. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that is it, it is always that simple, different fighters, especially killers are always going to cause problems, and more often than not serious ones.

    No 'fight plan' is a remedy, on the job training most of the time and the skilful fit fighter knows what to do, adapts, watches and capitalize, but even then some fighters will just beat you.
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's pretty simple Larry Holmes didn't really have a left hook, which was Carl Williams's biggest weakness so Holmes couldn't exploit it.

    Williams would have a tendency to drop his right hand after jabbing and that's why he got caught by Weaver, Tyson. Who had very good left hooks and could exploit that glaring weakness.

    As I said Holmes's arsenal was jab, right hand, uppercut, he didn't have a left hook to speak of.
     
  8. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't fight Mike in January !!!
     
  9. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. tyson had that bounce in his step that night, which told you he was ready.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    1. Against Tyson He was in there with a prime champion instead of a past prime one.

    2. He had an incurable weakness for the left hook which Tyson specialized in.

    3. He rose off the canvas but the referrer waved off the fight when he probably shouldn’t have.
     
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  11. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He had a decent right hook.