Undefeated retired fighter with no dodgy wins?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky's first fight with LaStarza was dodgy. It was a draw, so they went to some sort of supplemental scoring system.

    His rematch with Walcott was incredibly shady. The fans were still booing and chanting 'fix' when the walkout bout featuring Oakland Billy Smith and Billy Noble started.

    Rocky also apparently fought his brother once as a pro and his brother used a false name (this is according to his brother). Not sure which fight on his record that one is. But I'm guessing that fight wasn't on the up-and-up.;)
     
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  2. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe. I think his wins over Hopkins and Reid were clear. Close fights but both times clear win for Joe
     
  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Samson Dutch Boy Gym went 43-0 36 KOs holding the unheralded WBF title for years, I don't think he had any controversial decisions. He was a Muay Thai legend known for his hands too so he was already an elite boxer when he turned pro.
     
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  4. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    KO'd by a body shot in his last fight
     
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  5. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Rocky balboa . His loss to clubber lang was a cheat
     
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  6. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rocky was a journeyman with multiple defeats, something like 18 before facing Apollo Creed who he admittedly lost in a close SD to, as well as getting stopped by Clubber Lang in a brutal one sided beatdown. There's no disputing if he lost or not, he lost about 20 times but you know what the great man said about getting knocked down only to get up again...
     
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can make an argument for any fighter who retired undefeated who should have had at least a draw or a loss on his record except Valero who never needed the score cards to win a fight. Ottke was the stay at home king and clearly lost too Reid in there Unification match as well as other fights. Calzaghe should have drawn with Reid and should have lost to Hopkins but Hopkins statement before the fight put an end to that. Mayweather should have lost to Castillo 1. Like I mentioned only Valero has a record with no arguments to it .
     
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    What about the Arab midget who died who was knocking everyone? Think he was flyweight. What was his name? @CST80
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Ali Raymi
     
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  12. Djokovic.GOAT

    Djokovic.GOAT Member banned Full Member

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    You should stop to watch Marvel and start to live a Real life.
     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How did you get unbanned? Lol. Alt..
     
  14. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Among undefeated fighters, maybe Alexander Frankel might quality.
     
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  15. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By accounts, Marciano's first win over Ted Lowry was more controversial than his first win over LaStarza. Some posters in Classic think Charles could have gotten the nod in their first fight, too. He beat everyone he faced at least once, but he had a couple of close calls.