Zhilei Zhang vs. Joseph Obey Joyce II & Pierce O'Leary vs. Kane Gardner RBR.

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, I don't think Joe's weight gain was the answer as a strategy, his weakness has always being hit too much, he got away with it previously generally being the the bigger guy with the better gas tank. Zhang is more of a sprinter compared to Joyce and Joyce was unable to avoid that early onslaught on both occasions. An issue is age and being able to rebuild significantly, at this point I don't think he can adapt.
    Respect to Joe jumping back in after getting beaten, that takes balls. Respect to Zhang for a great performance and final punch, that would have sent 99% to the shadow realm.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There's no way The Dosser, Belly or AJ are taking Big Bang's power. Belly will have to beg his skickness to come back to avoid getting clipped. AJ will have a heart attack after shipping one of those backhands or right hooks and The Dosser will be laid out cold by the first one which lands.
     
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  3. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    And he is much quicker and more dynamics boxer. His punches got more power soo Zhang cant do whatever he want.
    Filip got big problems bit he was able to survive hard moments and he outboxed Zhang in 9 of 12 rounds.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The vast majority of HWs would have been laid out much earlier than Big Joe was if Big Bang landed that clean on them
     
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  5. humbug

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    His game plan was ****ed, all of a sudden he’s trying to be Floyd Mayweather being all defensive.
     
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  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joyce actually got up at 9 I thought. Ref needs to watch a couple.of Rocky movies.
     
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  7. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    I like Joe. Wish him all good but he react bad to his fame and "five minutes". He start being little douche...

    End of the day poor situation. If he will wait he will be attack title shots.
    Only consolation for him is that he will be looking same bad or even worse vs Usyk. That will be 50% speed advantage xD
     
  8. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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  9. rusev

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    Fury will not attend that party , like he did against Ustinov , seeing him in person.
     
  10. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's crazy how Zhang emerged now as the biggest threat to the top guys. I could see him giving Wilder, AJ, and Fury fits.

    A Wilder fight would be the biggest fireworks in boxing. How does wilder avoid Zhang coming forward and landing at will with his bad footwork. And then again, how does Zhang's chin react to flush rights? That's an intriguing fight.

    AJ gets obliterated against Zhang, I'm sorry, and I don't see him taking this fight unless he has to if Zhang became the champ. AJ moves more now but that hesitancy won't get Zhang off him.

    Before we get carried away with Zhang destroying Fury, we have to remember that Fury is a great mover and has good stamina. The problem is he had issues with another lefty who hit him when he wanted. Fury has really let himself go now looking like his pops in the mid sectuon. That's playing with fire. But a sharp Fury, in decent shape beats Zhang.
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Forgot prime Ustinov was shamelessly ducked by Fury.
     
  12. nervousxtian

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    Joyce leaving left hand at his waist is a bad idea.
     
  13. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Oh I fully agree that last killer Zhang punch was a 'send you to the shadow realm ' type of punch. Kinda reminisant of a peak heavy Foreman punch, it gets your attention when hit brutally clean.

    Not wanting to take anything away from Zhang's thunder tonight, he bloody brought it, no arguments from me. What a 40 yro fighter he is!, sublime mate.

    But I do think Joe has aged and slipped overnight. Had he fought Parker or Dubois in a re-match tonight I think he loses, mate. Honestly.

    Time's time...

    Just my opinion.
     
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  14. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    He's the new, old, Foreman!

    Just a bigger version...;)
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yes
     
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