Harder puncher: Wilder or Zhang?

I still picked Wilder even though Zhang stopped an iron chinned fighter. Wilder has more snap on the right, but Zhang has more power on the hook because he puts perfect leverage and his weight behind it. Wilder's hooks can hurt you but he doesn't really put text book twist on it.

Pound for pound Wilder is the bigger puncher because he's doing this to heavyweights weighing at 210-220 lbs, while Zhang was 290lbs. There's no such thing as iron chin if 290lbs is clocking you with precision, although Hrgovic looks to have one.

 

Muhhahahahah Joyce resume s**** all over Ortiz resume. Don't make all of us laugh. Who the heck is in Ortiz resume exactly?
Ortiz has cardio for 6-7 rounds. He is tailor made for Joyce. One of the easiest fight for Joyce.
Joyce is still a legit top 10 contender, something Ortiz was like what 5 years ago?

Hell Parker will play with Ortiz now, probably even in his prime. Joyce in terms of everything is miles above Ortiz.

 

Yeah, yeah we know you Fury fanboys how Fury and Wilder will magically beats everyone, but their resume consumed with trash for obvious reason.
if they were so good and would magically like that with no problems would have beaten everyone, they would have actually fight live bodies constantly, not ducking every single legit opponent.

Explain us though why is Wilder not fought Ruiz yet, and outprice himself out of the fight, and is almost 2 years inactive ?

 

Jenning is the best example to show how better Ortiz is. He fought a younger, fresher version of Jennings than Joyce and put him away in a convincing fashion. I agree however Parker is very good name on Joyce's resume and Ortiz lacks an equivalent. When I say "resume" I also count in the fact that Ortiz was seconds away from stopping Wilder - that has to count in assessing whether he or Joyce is the better and more proven fighter. Based on what we have just witnessed, you can imagine how a Wilder-Joyce fight would have ended, I am afraid...

Btw Joyce v Ortiz now would be a good "final chance" fight for both guys now.

 

Wilder definitely, but Wilder cannot throw combos, and he only has power on one hand.

Zhang can throw combos and has insane power in both hands.

 

Zhang has better timing, angle and weight behind his punches. Wilder has speed and range.

 

Should be the other way around

Why has Ruiz not fought Wilder ? The fight was ordered yet Ruiz kept asking for more money. And no way in hell does Ruiz deserve 50% or even 40%

 

Based on what exactly, your bias ?
Or Wilder big return fight, that sold millions of millions PPV, oh wait .....

The way business work is, you either can sell a fight on your own, and has no problem fighting guys, cause people will come for you, or you simply need a big opponent, and what will sell is the fight itself, not your or his name, which is the case.

Ruiz is also a proven warrior, who didn't have problem fighting unbeaten AJ on short notice, and unbeaten Parker. Ruiz is also ex-Unified World Champion.

You can offer 25-30% split when you are a Champion, and eh, oh wait you know what? Wilder is simply not.
There is a reason he cannot set up a decent fight, and he has nothing better to do.

He though he had a leverage with AJ fight being done in the Saudi, but that falls apart big time.

Also anyone with any logical sense knows that when a fighter, and his trainer start bragging about % and start offering contracts/deals, it's just cloud talk. Just like Fury. You don't do business on Twitter. Basic thing, you know ?

 

All I know is Zhang would KO Wilder. That much is obvious.

 

A prime Stiverne is extremely underrated. On top of that Wilders hand was injured if I remember correctly and he showed off his boxing skills.

 

Wilder.

 

Wilder not even an argument ! Wilder as well as being more explosive is dangerous for every second of every round where as Zhang's power drops off after the early rounds having never stopped or dropped anybody after the sixth round !

 

All of this is irrelevant. The fight fell through because Ruiz wanted 50/50 which he isn't entitled to by ppv numbers and popularity. He is greedy as hell. For once take of your ridiculous hate tinted glasses and analyze the situation.

I couldn't give a crap about Ruiz anyway. He struggled with an older Luiz Ortiz and couldn't even knock him out, yet Wilder did it twice and against better Ortiz, but Ruiz is such a better warrier right ? Gtfo. Much rather see Wilder for Bakole or Zhang

 

I would say Zhang, but Wilder is much lighter and has very solid power for that weight and for his built

 

Zhang for me. By a fair bit too. 20.5 stone with fast hands. Cracked a very good chin in Joyce