Zhang has a better resume than Wilder

If that other Olympian is Hrgovic, then Zhang does not have two Olympians on his resume. In the best case according to Zhang - it was a draw.
On the other hand, in addition to Ortiz (whom you mentioned), Wilder also has 2 former world champions in his resume. Bermane Stiverne and Siarhei Liakhovich. I know that Stiverne should not have been world champion, and Liakhovich too old when he fought Wilder. But Wilder does not determine who will be world champion, or who will retire when. It's not his fault.

 

Beating Ortiz is a better win than Joyce and beating Stiverne is better than anyone on Zhang's resume so no he doesn't and I'm not a big fan of Wilder either.

You can't add imaginary wins he didn't beat Hrgovic, and I thought Hrgovic legitimately won 114-113 he comeback in later rounds.

 

Yep that ain't hard

 

He beat "one" Olympian twice. He lost to Hrgovic (close fights =/= robbery, and that narrative needs to end). And he almost died vs. Jerry Forrest. No, his resume is not better than Wilder's. His best win (Joyce) however, is better than Wilder's best win (Ortiz).

And his best win's best win (Parker) is better than Wilder's best win's best win (Jennings).

 

People still defending that Wilder resume in 2023. Ortiz ans Stiverne. Hahaha

 

On what planet Ortiz is better win than Joyce? Care to explain ? Just a parker win, which comes in a dominating fashion is enough to **** all over Ortiz resume.
While that was faded version of Parker, that wasn't a shot to **** Charles Martin version, who still floored Ortiz twice or so.

Stiverne is a complete bum, don't know why you put him in any conversation.
People were talking about Charles Martin, but Stiverne is like 10x time worst than him.

And you can think Hrgovic won the fight, which is fine, but plenty of people with me think that Zhang won, for me Zhang won by a round.
Boxing scoring is done through 12 rounds, not doing better or worst in the later rounds.
You are scoring round by round, and if you win more rounds than your opponent, doesn't matter if it's the first or the last, you are supposed to win.
Hrgovic by himself knows he lost that fight, that's why it's the first time i see a fighter that "supposedly" won a match calling for a rematch.

 

I'm not going to argue who has better resume, but i agree completely with your point about Ortiz, Joyce and Parker.

I don't get in what world anyone would rank Ortiz higher than Joyce. Joyce is still a harder fight than Ortiz ever would be for anyone.

And not just that, but Wilder was saved by the official in that Ortiz fight, aka USA corruption, and was beaten badly by Pappa Ortiz twice, while Zhang dominates the best chin in Boxing = Joyce.

And i'm going to say it again, there is a REASON when you have a guy like Wilder with almost 50 matches, and his resume contains just 2 good f**** names on it, and 1 of them is a guy he never managed to beat - Fury.

Wilder fanboys on here, explain me why in the blue hell has Wilder never fought the top guys in the division, when it's matter ???

Just going to mention few names that was a legit contenders, and Wilder somehow manages to miss them for obvious reasons:
Klitschko
Povetkin
Pulev(in his prime)
Haye

And more recently:
Whyte(when it's matter and wasn't shots to bits, thanks to Povetkin uppercut from Hell)
Andy Ruiz
Parker(when was champion and relevant)
Joyce

We also have guys like Zhang, Hrgovic, Makhmudov, Dubois, Sanchez, and even guys like Anderson, Bakole, Gassiev, and Jermain Franklin calls Wilder out, and he doesn't want to even fight him, as Franklin has a chin on him.
Not even going to mention Joshua .... Usyk is not fair to be mention, as he wasn't possibility.


Why is Wilder always fight fighters with at best questionable chin, and like 99,99% of the time a complete bums ?

 

Hrgovic is most souless person when fighting, he shows no emotion. The fact you are talking he was crying means you didnt watch the fight and this is #CHINESCOPIUM.

 

Ortiz is a better win than Joyce 28-0 vs 15-0 plus Ortiz is a much better boxer.

Apart from Joyce what other win does Zhang have better than Stirvene ?

I'm not saying either win is amazing but it's still better than Zhang's resume.

 

The day after a big win, there's always some going a bit overboard with the winner. Just the usual board hyperbole.
But definitely a good win for Zhang. Big Bang v. Big Belly is certainly a fight i'd love to see.

 

Although Wilder lost to Fury I think Wilder is more proven then Zhang.

Wilder has proven he can get up from knockdowns and he is dangerous until the final bell or until you put him away.

 

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It is really tiring to see commenters on this thread talk about very serious professional sportsmen with such disrespect like crying etc. I had Zhang winning 114-113 but it could have easily gone either way.

Also, Ortiz is better then Joyce. Compare how they performed against Jennings. This makes Wilder's win against Ortiz better than Zhang's against Joyce. That said, I think Zhang would have a good shot at knocking Wilder out within 3 rounds the same way he did Joyce. 50/50 fight, but my gut tells me Zhang has enough punch resistance to be able to just walk through Wilder irrespective of the Wilder right hand bazooka.

I would only pick Fury and Usyk against Zhang at this moment and he has a better puncher's chance against either of them than Wilder or Joshua. Make at least one of them happen.

I should also add that Hrgovic would not be an easy ride for either Fury or Usyk, very solid technical fighter with a strong punch. Reminds me a bit of Vitali but questionable whether he has the same determination / heart / willpower.

 

I like Zhang but just imagine the flack Wilder would take if he had a draw with Jerry Forrest on his resume.

 

I'll be the first one to get behind Wilder having a relatively weak resume for a guy with 40+ fights, but Wilders resume is better than Zhangs currently