Zhang has a better resume than Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MismatchHypejob, Sep 25, 2023.

  1. murphman22

    murphman22 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    484
    Incredible how many people now simple state that Zhang beat Hrgovic, like it was some robbery. Zhang lost, I had him losing, it was a close fight though. Zhang had a couple of big rounds and Hrgovic looked disinterested at times. But I think it's very difficult to give Zhang more than 6 rounds. Like or loath Compubox, Hrgovic landed more of every type of punch, and he swept the last 3 rounds without doubt. This narrative is absolutely midblowing and seems to have grown legs since the fight and following Joyce's win. It's mindblowing.
     
  2. JackTheChamp123

    JackTheChamp123 Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2023
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    120
    You know that old saying - if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. First it was:
    • a possible draw
    • draw
    • close Zhang win
    • now it is total Zhang domination that was ended by corrupt judges, all 3 of them, which Hearn payed because he cares about Hrgovic
    Hrgovic has 5 fans, but you cant argue with milions of Chinese bots
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2021
    Messages:
    17,124
    Likes Received:
    19,079
    Zhang will lose his next fight
     
  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2016
    Messages:
    14,882
    Likes Received:
    19,167
    Great. Now compare how they performed against Christian Hammer.
     
  5. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2017
    Messages:
    1,261
    Likes Received:
    1,838
    Joyce's best wins are Parker, Dubois and Takam.
    Ortiz's are Martin, Jennings and Thompson. Note that Joyce also beat Jennings.

    Joyce has a much better summary.
     
    BubblesUK likes this.
  6. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2017
    Messages:
    310
    Likes Received:
    313
    Only comment I'll make here is Joyce was never a good fighter. The only thing he had going for him was an iron chin. Slow as molasses, and no defense. Reminds me of a poor man's Ray Mercer, Mercer was much faster.
     
  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    15,584
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Joyce is a better opponent than anyone on Wilder’s resume. He was clearly on the rise in the division and was beating good competition on the way in. Having said that, Wilder has more depth.
     
  8. Rec_Dog

    Rec_Dog New Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2023
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    28
    "Xtra PBC time" LMAO u made my day
     
  9. Daft P

    Daft P Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2005
    Messages:
    1,434
    Likes Received:
    128
    Hammer barely won a single round in 10 against Ortiz - and that was Hammer three years younger before defeats by guys like Huggies. Come on.

    Joyce is probably the bigger puncher I will give him that but you really have to be blind not to see how much more crafty, faster and intelligent Ortiz was. He is just a more complete package all around I honestly struggle to understand how anyone with a remote understanding of what makes a boxer technically superior should disregard it. Joyce would definitely not last against Wilder they way Ortiz could.
     
  10. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Messages:
    31,058
    Likes Received:
    22,637
    Just about any HW of note does
     
    BubblesUK and Wizbit1013 like this.
  11. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Messages:
    7,913
    Likes Received:
    2,173
    Stivern was a bum gifted a vacant title and was best known for going to war with Arreola did nothing but lose after as well.
     
    ashishwarrior likes this.
  12. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,409
    Likes Received:
    1,446
    Overboard? Lol.. wilders resume is objectively trash, it’s a fair comparison
     
  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2010
    Messages:
    34,376
    Likes Received:
    11,877
    Wont even mention owd chisora name
    Flew to russia only in london said turn round
    Wilder needs to be called out for his poor very poor resume it bordering criminal
     
    lordlosh and Serge like this.
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    83,792
    Likes Received:
    139,064
    Don't flush your chain for a week and then lift your toilet seat and take a look at the contents of your toilet because that's the equivalent of The Dosser's 46 fight resume.
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2010
    Messages:
    34,376
    Likes Received:
    11,877
    He had half the fights wilder as
    Bring in gavern for zang then eh