Harder puncher: Wilder or Zhang?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TheWizard, Sep 24, 2023.

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Biggest puncher at heavyweight

Poll closed Sep 23, 2024.
  1. Wilder

    69 vote(s)
    68.3%
  2. Zhang

    30 vote(s)
    29.7%
  3. Someone else

    2 vote(s)
    2.0%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It happened during negotiations genius. Wilder already said so, with Ruiz confirming 10 million afterwards. Ruiz doesn't even deserve 50/50 anyway

    The date of the articles ≠ time that the camps exchanged information.
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Although it doesn't matter

    Fact is Ruiz turned down a 70/30 title eliminator with Wilder and a potential mandatory when he's accepted less recently. I will keep saying this because it's the unbiased reality of things
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder clearly. And a lot of people say Wilder's power is only in his right hand. He's definitely melted and or nearly melted guys with his left hook as well. Hell, Fight 1 against Fury, it was a left hook in round 12 that almost ended Fury. Wilder is definitely a two handed hitter, the right is Tsar Bomba, the left is Hiroshima, insane but not quite the right hand.

    Disclaimer: I do not like Wilder in case someone comes on here calling me a nuthugger
     
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  4. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Not quite on topic, but on the note of Wilder's left, it's the source of one of my favorite BS claims that emerged from that saga. Fury says that the right put him out, then the left woke him up. Doubt that's true but I like to think it is, since it means one of the few times Wilder didn't just go for the one punch KO it backfired on him :lol:
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You blind buddy? I even quote it for you. Wilder is claiming 20-25m. and this is after all the talks breakdown, and Ruiz say he will fight him for 10m.
    You are really a kid in the kindergarten, don't you? No difference between 10 and 25m., right?

    As far as turning down i can say the same. Wilder is turning a 50-50 fair split fight, and reject a mandatory fight, ducking Ruiz and stay inactive in the mean time.
    Repeat as much as you like troll. You are ending on my ignore list.
    I debunked every single lie you were saying.
    You are bitter troll that is supporting 2 of the biggest clown artist in Boxing now. Trying to defend their shameless duck and lose everyone time with his biased troll attempt.
    Enjoy your ignore, soon you will be posting with yourself only, oh i forget and all of the Tysonettes.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No you fool, Wilder claimed Ruiz WANTED 25 million and 50/50. Ruiz insisted Wilder was lying, then said 10 million. Wilder was referring to the money Ruiz wanted during talks. I mean, how tf else would he know what Ruiz wanted ? This is just common sense

    After everything broke down Wilder exposed Ruiz's demands to explain why thinks went south. Talks only broke down about 1 month ago, which debunks your claim that all the issues about Ruizs demands happened after

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/0...deontay-wilder-vs-andy-ruiz-final-eliminator/

    The money issues were being discussed beforehand. And the fact that Ruiz himself already admitted he wanted 20 million against Fury all but confirms Wilders claims

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/05/18/64667f71268e3e3d798b45e1.html

    How about you start posting some links buddy ?
     
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  7. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he beat a bum on points a bum who was knocked out every time he stepped up... Yeah real accomplishment there pal.
     
  8. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where in that article does it say that Ruiz himself wanted 20m to fight fury?
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz never denied it, so on top of Wilder and Fuys claims there's simply more evidence than believing the other side.

    Fact is if Ruiz himself claimed 10 million then the claims aren't far fetched

    https://boxing-social.com/news/andy-ruiz-responds-to-tyson-fury/
     
  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Zhang Wilder has to be made to settle the issue. Get it done for December.
     
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  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a shame.everybody is avoiding everybody again.Particularly, Tyson Fury, Andy Ruiz and Joshua displaying a disgraceful attitude. all cash no risk.There are so many great fights that could have been made
     
  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    10 and 20 million are a world apart. your argument is disingenuous at best.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet you have provided 0 counter arguments in favor of Ruizs side of negotiations. All you're doing is believing Ruiz's side of things without any evidence whatsoever, simply because that's the popular thing to do, hate Fury and Wilder

    Ruiz never denied 20 million that both Fury and Wilder claimed he demanded. 10 million could easily be to save face, although even 10 million on top of 50/50 is asking for a lot in all honesty

    Additionally it was Ruiz who turned down the title eliminator. Why be so focused on money when it's a crack at mandatory ? I want your answer
     
  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That was the point I was making
     
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  15. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The offer was 1 mil. Given he would be the best name (should he win) on his resume, it was a poor offer