Zhang Doesn't Beat ATG's Because He Beat Joe Frigging Joyce.....

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  1. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    would still like to see Zhang in with a big fight or two. maybe with Wilder, Usyk or Fury. father time is beating fast ...hope he gets a big cash fight at least.
     
  2. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I wasn’t talking about myself. I was talking about the general consensus among boxing fans. The point of my post was exactly this, how quickly and drastically people change their minds.

    Of course, now everybody says “lol at those who thought Joyce was this unstoppable force”. But before Zhang beating him, most people actually thought that.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Fury Vs Nnganou October 28th will determine who the baddest man on the planet is.
     
  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Make sure you buy at least 20-30 PPVs for this "event", mate. If you fail to do so you are no longer the devoted Fury fan you claim to be. Support your king with an appropriate PPV spending or he will no longer consider you his loyal servant.

    Be a good egg and post the confirmation email once you purchase these PPVs.
     
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  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    And send us both one of those codes to watch the PPV! Lol
     
  6. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    Ok but why did some of you guys on this forum kiss Fury’s ass after he beat a one-trick pony in Wilder? Right away almost the entire forum was in agreement that he would beat every ATG in history…The hypocrisy is wild…
     
  7. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :pancarta:
     
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  8. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce's chin is the biggest myth in heavyweight boxing. Period. Citing Dubois who is a glorified can crusher and Parker, who doesn't possess any serious KO power at the top level as evidence that Joyce has a granite chin is a joke argument made by simpletons.

    Joyce is a stepping stone guy. His power and chin have been greatly exaggerated by people who are little more than hype merchants.
     
  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree man.

    But at least Wilder has a trick. Joyce is half a trick at best. And some of us have called out both (and Fury) for the frauds that they are.
     
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  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    But it is simply not true, mate. He doesn't have a bad chin but he is miles away from having this legendary iron chin that many incorrectly attributed to him. He is nowhere near a McCall or a Mercer. Look at this:

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    Doesn't exactly spell "granite chin" now does it? Joyce was also stopped by an absolute cream puff called Hamza Beguerni. The guy had ten amateur bouts, he lost all of them bar the Joyce bout where he knocked "iron chin" Joyce out in one round. Joshua also stopped Joyce in one round in 2011.

    That's three stoppages in two years. I don't know how or where these hyperbolical claims about Joyce's chin started but Joyce was stopped three times as an amateur when he was still in his twenties. Punch resistance worsens as a fighter ages so no, it's not a case of "oh but it was a long time ago, he is much better now" either. Your punch resistance doesn't improve with age, it doesn't improve with experience. It does the exact opposite, it goes down the older you are and the more punches you are hit with.

    So while Joyce's chin is decent he nowhere has the best chin in HW boxing and he is not even close to the likes of (pre-Lewis) Mercer or McCall.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isn't there another clown show on that weekend?
     
  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wholeheartedly agree with this. Zhang is already 40 years old and has only one credible opponent and it was against a slow as molasses come forward brawler who was tailor made for him. Zhang doesn’t even come close to being mentioned among any other ATGs.
     
  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, I felt it was quite clear that he couldn't keep getting wins shipping the punishment he did against Dubois and Parker. Too many hard punchers in the division. Sooner or later something was going to crack.
     
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  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zhang brutalizes come forwards fighters like Frazier.
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How to say you're never seen Frazier fight without saying you've never seen Frazier fight...
     
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