The 10-8 round conundrum

Or Argentina, where for a number of years if it wasn’t a KO or shutout it was a draw, haha.

I think the problem with half rounds or quarter rounds is ultimately it comes down to a 10-9 in normal scoring just becomes a 10-9 1/2 in this kind of system.

The more leeway you give judges to play, in the long run, the more a lot of people aren’t going to like the results.

Even though I threw it out there for discussion, I’m not sure I want to live in a world where a guy loses 8 of 10 rounds but has two big rounds and wins a close decision. I don’t know that I’d watch that fight and think the right guy won.

 

Agree with the above.
I believe you can give a round as 10 - 8 without a knockdown, but that round 6 did not come close to meeting the standard.

I would ALWAYS score a knockdown as a 10-8 round, even if the floored fighter won the rest of the round. The only exception would be if the floored fighter put an absolute ass-whipping on the the fighter who knocked him down.
That ass whipping would have to be of the same standard as I would use to award a 10-8 in the absence of a knockdown.
If the floored fighter did manage to dish out such an ass-whipping, I would score the round even.

 

Pretty sure Chop Chop Corley scored a 10-8 round against Miguel Cotto (I believe round 3) of their fight. Cotto was basically drunk and nearly dead for that entire round but never actually went down...........nor did he receive a standing 8 count

 

Glad you brought up the standing 8. My definition basically entails any situation where you'd expect the ref to give the fighter one but he (incorrectly) opts to not do so.

 

And that fight in particular was one where it was warranted. I don't think Cotto even threw or landed another punch in that round and he got hurt early. It definitely lines up with your summary because from "pillar to post" Cotto was rag dolled in that round.

Very lopsided, Chop Chop wasn't a hitter but can hang his hat on the fact that his right hook nearly detonated both Cotto and Floyd. Not too many people can say that.

 

@scartissue I think pretty much it's up to the discretion of what judges criteria's are for 10-8 rounds.

For example we both watched a fight a few months ago in Lamon Brewster vs Kali Meehan, and round 8 for both us was a clear 10-8 round without a knockdown.

For alot of people a 10-8 round without a knockdown has to be an absolute pounding or domination, but the question is does it always have to be that way ? for example Norton/Holmes round 13 for me wasn't an absolute domination. But Holmes continuously landed solid right hands and froze Norton quite badly towards the end of the round, my criteria is that Holmes was dominant enough in that round that he deserved an extra point. And maybe more judges should see rounds like this ? or maybe i'm crazy who knows.

 

Bowe vs Golota 2 Round 5 for me was a 10-7 round with only 1 knockdown as Golota was so dominant.

Possibly Leonard had a case for a 2 point round vs Hearns in their rematch when he wobbled Hearns bad.

Also as i said earlier Kali Meehan vs Lamon Brewster round 8 is the clearest 10-8 round you'll ever see without a knockdown.

 

That Meehan/Brewster definitely...............

 

I went back to my scorecards for Leonard-Hearns 1 and 2 and scored round 6 of the first fight 10-9 and round 5 of the second fight 10-8.

 

Very valid line of thought. Why have a 10 point range and only use part of it?

 

I thought Brewster edged it.

Nah, that was a 10-8 in my book. Complete and total domination from bell to bell and had his man rocked for much of it.