Here is Why Joe Joyce Lost | This Is Terrible Tim Witherspoon

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  1. Tim Witherspoon

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  2. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Goddamn, that's some good stuff.
     
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  3. Tim Witherspoon

    Tim Witherspoon Member Full Member

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    Got to tell it as it is. That is how us old school fighters do it
     
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    I think that's a fair point that OP makes. On the other hand, no trainer on earth is going to make Joyce faster, and his lack of speed is what allowed Zhang to exploit the gaps. Zhang is just a horrible matchup for Joyce based on his physical characteristics. What I'm saying is, that even if Joyce was trying to slip and weave, I think that Zhang's speed edge would see him land anyway.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Hey Tim glad to see you’re back around. Nice video man.
     
  7. Tim Witherspoon

    Tim Witherspoon Member Full Member

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    Thank you!!!
     
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    Good to see you back, Tim!
     
  9. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Every word is a nugget of wisdom, I could listen to Mr Witherspoons insights into boxing matters all day long, thank you for sharing your knowledge Champ.
     
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  10. Tim Witherspoon

    Tim Witherspoon Member Full Member

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    Love having you as a fan! I am doing a Live tonight come hangout!
     
  11. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Comeback Foreman had pretty good defense for the most part, despite being even slower than Joyce. Not sure lack of speed is his issue. Yeah, he's not going to be able to slip punches like '67 Ali, but he can certainly block them with something other than his face.

    I think the champ is right here -- Joyce needs a better team, better training.
     
  12. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amazing video. Always extremely glad to see you here champ, spreading the knowledge (especially about the crossguard :biggrin:)
     
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  14. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks champ, that was right on the money!

    As soon as I saw Joyce come in so heavy, I thought "how is that gonna help him slip punches?"
     
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    We are fortunate to have a fighter of the historical stature of Witherspoon on this board.