Does Usyk have less power then the much bigger Wallin?

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  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    It would be safe to assume that a bigger man would hit harder. While Wallin's KO percentage isn't that great, he's been fighting bigger men with sturdier chins.
     
  2. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    This.

    Too many are way too concerned about Usyk's power. It's amusing. Are they afraid? :)

    Any professional HW carry enough power to knock anyone out cold with a well-timed shot. In this regard, power is extremely overrated. The sport is called boxing not knockouting. Besides, Usyk is known for his dislike of KOing opponents. If the opportunity presents itself OR when he is pissed, he can go for it. But generally, he is not a fan of knocking people out. Joshua and Chisora were both on the verge of being stopped, yet Usyk didn't go in for the kill. As he put it: "Why are you so bloodthirsty? There is victory, everything is fine. Why is it necessary for a person to fall? He has relatives, friends, a mother and a father. This is a big chunk of health if a person falls. I'm not for that."

    It's funny how KO-junkie people could get. I reckon they are mostly casual "boxing fans" whose primary interest in the sport is watching three minute KO highlight reels on YouTube. They most probably don't know how Ali himself was never a noted puncher and his KO % is actually lower than that of Usyk and the heaviest guy Ali knocked out was a 225 lbs journeyman Chuck Wepner. What a pillow fist this Usyk is for not stopping 240+ lbs guys, lol.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Top 2 of this era are Fury & Wilder and we got a trilogy from them.

    Usyk has done well but Fury will blow him out then a bunch of excuses will come to diminish the win.

    People need to go & wrestle with a 280 pound man for 60 seconds. Usyk is in deep trouble. The back is getting broken, spinal. Everyone is going to talk about how the body is vulnerable you need to watch out for the first right hand Fury's clocks on him as he goes rigid and tries to hide behind a high guard. The hybrid baby of Dubious, Chisora & AJ don't make a man an ounce the man of Fury.

    If Usyk survives the distance and wins lets say 4 rounds then he will have proven how unbelievably good he is...which he is but I don't think he'll rise to that level.
     
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  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    :)

    One of the most satisfying things about Usyk battering Fury into retirement will be seeing you struggling to accept the realities of the situation.

    I can't wait. But of course, Fury, as the coward he is, will most probably pull out of the fight. He is afraid of losing to Usyk, it's written all of his actions. But should the fight go ahead, it will be fun to see you guys coping with the humiliating loss afterwards.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was speaking in jest but Wallin is still a grossly underrated fighter. He'd only been to Turkey once; as an amateur, where he suffered his only career KO defeat, huge demons to confront and overcome. He was fighting a significant A-side who was a former unified cruiserweight champion, top 4 in Usyk's era and the biggest cruiserweight puncher since Haye, actually a bigger one-shot puncher than Haye with his left hook. Fine margins for error. Being messed around by Hearn, Whyte and Joshua must have damaged his motivation too. I suspect we'll see an even better Wallin going forward, I'd make him favourite against Joyce and Zhang.
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    There are only a few people on this forum who give actual opinions with insight and breakdown. I listen to them opinions and respect them. Not just "Usyk is going to batter Fury or outbox him" I mean how basic can it get.

    Here we go Mr.Confident. Name the number one facet of Usyk's game that enables him a path to victory (e.g. handspeed, chin, IQ, stamina etc.) Which is it? I know which it is but do you? Of course all matter but one is more important than all the others.

    Then we can talk about the real issue Usyk has which you should be aware of.
     
  7. Redbeard7

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    "will most probably pull out of the fight"

    Keep coping. Fury's going to eat the little rabbit up. It's going to be glorious.
     
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Fury can definitely eat. No.doubting that bro.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, especially given Yellow Belly has been hurt and dropped a whole bunch of times by complete featherfists and light hitters like KO44% Cunningham whose KO percentage at HW is obviously way lower than that given he's only stopped like 1 of his opponents at that weight in like 10 fights, KO 29% Pajkic, badly hurt and very nearly dropped by KO 38% Firtha

    And lets not forget that Wallin hurt a prime active near 20lb heavier Belly and should hold a win over him and that flabby coward has been running from the rematch with him ever since, not a inactive injury-ravaged well past prime 20lb lighter version of him who hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in five years or seen 8 complete rounds of action in all that time :facepalm:
     
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  10. Redbeard7

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    Not as well as 25/1 underdog Ruiz, who smashed Usyk's best win to pieces and made him jack in 7.
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You're having a laugh, Fury must be 350lb. Ruiz didn't smash anything in the second fight except a drawer full of Snickers.
     
  12. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As usual a lot of big comments about how the Undisputed fight will go and who wins it from both sets of fans,this forum will be gold after the Undisputed fight in regards to these big comments that always appear in these threads. These big comments are often and numerous and the posters will have to stand by there comments simple as that .
     
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  13. Redbeard7

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    290 lbs. He always looks heavier than he is in his 2nd career and that will only continue as he gets older.

    Exactly, which made it more embarrassing for AJ. Most humiliating loss in combat sports history in fight 1, runs away from a much fatter version of the short Mexican blob in fight 2. When Buster put on a stone and didn't train Holyfield took him out in 3 rounds.
     
  14. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Stop making excuses for his horrendous condition. He's an obese tub of lard. Unknown quantity Ngannou might switch off the bums lights.

    Btw Buster hadn't beaten Holyfield beforehand so I don't get your equating that with Ruiz save he blew up in weight.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Keep crying. Usyk's getting smashed and you'll love it.