Who amongst these star boxers benefited the most from steroid use?

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  1. Mickc

    Mickc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Already well mentioned but Evan Fields is the man here .
     
  2. steviebruno

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    Pacquiao never becomes a welterweight without them and maxes out at 135lbs.
     
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  3. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think they are all on roids but what is the proof Pac did outside of Ariza's special shakes claim?

    I would argue Pac was at a disadventage due to same day weigh ins being gone. He was always 147 on fightnight fighting middleweights.
    In the past he could have fought vs junior middleweights and actual middleweights.
    I mean guys like Hagler would murder him but beating a beltholder there isnt impossible given how margarito was basically a super middleweight when they fought.
     
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  4. JOKER

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    My boy wasn't caught hooked up to a drip feed with illegal IV fluids, but your boy was. And your boy did so much more on top of that.

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    • Illegal IV fluids in his home
    • Ultra low T/E ratios consistent with steroid use in multiple fights
    • Announced fights at the last issue possible (controlled cycling and when drug testing began)
    • Privately contracted his own drug testing
    • Ducked VADA and positive drug test penalties
    This woman-beating scumbag might be the worst in sports history.
     
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    10 minutes of Floyd being trolled by life, grossing both men and women out, and forcing himself into the picture.

    TBE = The Biggest Embarrassment

    :lol:
     
  6. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A sensible post.
     
  7. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about Mayweather's illegal WADA banned IV use?

    Floyd's abhorrent testosterone to epitestosterone levels, Xylocaine injections numbing agent,

    While having personal contracts with USADA while avoiding VADA stringent Carbon Isotope testing among others?
     
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  8. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather never struggled to make weight making it even more comical,

    It's funny I remember Pacquiao issuing Floyd a 5 million fee for a failed test yet Floyd was the one who turned it down mind you,

    The reason their fight was further delayed was because Floyd presented the clause that allowed the testing agency a retroactive TUE exemption to either fighter in the event that the fighter tested Positive for any prohibited drug, that retroactive exemption could be granted without notifying NSAC or the opposing fighters Camp wow!!
     
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  9. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Evan fields
    Roid Jones Jnr
    Clenolo

    All great fighters but the juice helped them move up and be successful at higher weights
     
  10. steviebruno

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    Where was the proof that Lance Armstrong doped?

    Manny Pacquiao was getting KO'd as a strawweight. Some people say he was malnourished. Fine. He moves up and struggles with larger fighters like JMM and EM at 126. Fastforward a couple of years later and he's gained an additional 20lbs of pure muscle and is walking through welterweights, without sacrifing speed or stamina, and without changing his style... while having almost as much punching power. In what realisitc world is any of this legit?

    I haven't even brought up his attempt to negotiate a drug testing cutoff with Floyd, back acne, his comically enlarged head, etc.

    Manny Pac was already a HOF level fighter up to 135. No question. But dude is naturally slightly bigger than Naoyua Inoue. What he accomplished beyond lightweight was highly suspect, starting with Hatton.
     
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  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Steroids aren't miracle drugs. Usually they increase power and size. What steroid kelps you maintain punch output and hand speed? That's complete nonsense.

    Sprinters take steroids to increase leg power, but it's not sustained.
     
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  12. MVC!

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    Manny Pacroid, and it's not even close LMFAO
     
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  13. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well the OP appears to referr to all kinds of PEDs since several on the list failed for non-steroid PEDs.

    EPO and PPAR-agonists(i believe theyre called?) Do maintain and increase output and endurance
     
  14. Babality

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    Why is Floyd not on that list? He was obviously roiding with the aid of USADA.
     
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  15. box33

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    Those PED's Mayweather uses/d do in fact help with his IQ as there plenty to enhance those areas including the confidence/ability to implement a game plan knowing the help in inside while preparing for a bout & when its game time & how about keeping up your stamina allowing you to dance all night around the ring being his biggest asset, the addition to Injecting your hands in order to punch more & harder while numbing yourself what an advantage to have while announcing fights & starting drug testing only when your done cycling off by then,

    I've heard people like yourself repeating that old 1300 punches line after hearing it from another (how original) BTW i don't remember Pac throwing 1300 punches & going by Compubox which so many are fans of around here it officially had Pacquaio only throwing 1069 punches counting in his fight with Margarito, that grueling fight in itself took the last bit of Pacquiaos prime along with it which in actuality was the real reason for reducing his numbers down & never so drastically as you implied, Pacquiao further changed his style/strategy after his KO loss to Marquez which also gets overlooked,

    The following fights he had with Mosley(727) , Marquez 3(578), Bradley 1(751) occurred when he was still aligned with Arzia so that debunks another BS narrative & if you truly believed it was due to Arizas influence then why was there no outrage when Floyd himself hired both Ariza & Memo for his own fight with Pacquiao after Floyd spent half a decade avoiding & ageing him out in the process.

    On top of that Pacquaio still threw 686 punches in his fight with Thurman & even higher in his last final bout with Ugas where he threw 815 punches so go figure.

    No need to get bent out of shape as I agree it is a stupid conversation to have & usually i never even care to say anything about what's already been discussed times over but i have noticed this particular trend with certain posters placing Pacquiao in these types of threads with no ounce of proof while repeating the same over tired lines & quotes of others especially when he was never even mentioned by the OP in his list & yet conveniently stay mum when it comes to Mayweather & his mountains full of documented proof,

    TC.
     
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