Regis Prograis claims Haney paid to remove loss from Mexico fight

Is this the part when I pretend to give a sh*t about your opinion or commentary??

Ahhhh now I remember you-- your're the "but Floyd the best ever yo!" Mayweather super-fan who peddled some pseudo pschoanalysis bullsh*t at me about Lomachenko to explain his supposedly anemic punch output in the Haney fight.

When I pointed out that Loma not only threw more punches in the 12th round than Haney, the round you'd zeroed in on, but threw over 100 punches more than Haney in the entire fight, you hilariously backpedaled and shifted the narrative to, "but Haney throws with intent yo!". Of course, you had to do some real tap dancing to explain how it was that the guy who supposedly doesn't throw with intent (Loma) hurt the guy who supposedly does (Haney) and also has higher KO percentage.

I'm not surprised, however, that a "but Floyd the best ever yo!" super-fan would treats losses like a juvenile. You do realize that lots of great fighters have had losses, yes? Or is everyone in the Boxing Hall of Fame, Loma's ultimate destination, undefeated??

You also realize that all losses are not created equal, and the context of a loss can often only be determined in the fullness of time--yes?

What do I mean? Simple. Fast-forward 10 years from now and imagine that Teo Lopez is concluding a HOF career. Is it possible? I would argue he's very much on that kind of trajectory. Similarly, let's also look ahead and say Haney defeats Prograis, whom many consider (outside of Teo) the best at 140lbs. Haney would likewise be on a HOF kind of trajectory. Can we take any of that speculation for granted? Of course not. But I think it's quite conceivable that one of these guys gets into the HOF (and I'd gamble on Teo).

In that very conceivable scenario, one or more of Loma's losses might have been to a future HOFer who was considerably younger and bigger, one would have also come against a younger and bigger fighter who most boxing observers believe he actually defeated, and one would have been at the hands of a battle-tested veteran in his second professional fight. We won't know for sometime, of course, and that's why someone who's been following the sport for more than 5mins often adopts a "wait-and-see" attitude on these things

You want to have a stick-up-your-ass about Loma? That's your prerogative. Just don't pretend it's anything but that, and do us both a favor and take that bullsh*t elsewhere because I'm not interested.

 

Did. Not. Read.

LOL

 

Same. I laugh out loud when I read his post and I LOL again reading your post! XD

 

it happened in his last fight too… expect nothing to some of it

 

I do not doubt this happened.

Boxing is sport corrupt to the core.

A prime example of this is Canelo vs Kovalev.. Kovalev clearly paid to pitty pat all night long against non-KO artist Clenelo moving up not one but TWO weight classes. Most obvious sparring session ever. Still shocked no criminal investigation open for it. Canelo's been involved in numerous fixed fights since.

 

Terrible accusation. One that follows you whether it's true or not

 

Yes. I've always loved being a boxing fan, but I've known from early on that I was going to have to accept that boxing is possibly the most corrupt sport there is and ride along with that fact. I don't remember where I read or heard it, some time in the 80s, I think, where the person stated that boxing is the biggest con (confidence game) and the more corrupt sport game. I thought about it a while and compared it with the other sports that I watched and I thought he must be right. As time has gone on, I still think that person was right. In this modern information age that we have been in for a while, it is just so visibly obvious how corrupt boxing is to me. None-the-less, as much as I enjoy many different combat sports, boxing has always been number one for me. I love modern day boxing and I love the history of the sport. I just found this the other day. I didn't know this film existed of Tommy Burns vs. Jack O'Brien with Jim Jefferies as referee. =D

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i heard canelo did the same.

 

I would say Haney is probably the biggest fraud in boxing and he actually said at the Prograis presser today that Shakur ducked him. What a deluded loser who has essentially no fans.

 

You got the scoop?

 

Regis's team just exposed Haney as a private school boy when he was trying to talk street at the last presser LOL

 

Hearn dreams about doing such things.
He's stuck with crooked judging and eliminator rematch clauses.

 

The Mayweather fanbase is not fans of Loma and I think a lot of that is how easy the acclaim came for Loma due to his amateur pedigree.
It's sort of the thing alot of Floyd fans do, where they don't like any fighter that's successful post Mayweather. Canelo, Loma, GGG. Etc.

It's also a racial boundary that has certain fans that will primarily only cheer for blacks while another has a fondness for East Euro fighters, or what another forum dubbed "Exotic White Fighters".
So until a recent modern black fighter surpasses Floyd, that group will not acknowledge anyone else as being greater until a black fighter does it.
That's where the animosity comes for Canelo and Loma, at least from that subgroup of fans.

 

Haha you got to slow it down for these dudes.