Showtime following HBO into Bolivian (discontinuing boxing programming in 2024)

Boxing succeeded despite its lack of organization but the bill eventually came due. Too many entertainment options for a sport that does not deliver consistent quality fights.

UFC is cleaning boxing’s clock because it’s organized and regular. You get the best against the best and don’t have to wait three years for it. **** gets old.

And while the sport is doing well elsewhere, boxing won’t be a global sport without the US and its media platforms.

 

Difference is those sports the networks know exactly what they are getting. There is a schedule set in stone.

 

Doesn't help if those voices are bad.

 

1937 - Jack Dempsey knows his own game. When he says boxing will be washed up within a year, unless something's done, he's talking straight from his heart. "It isn't boxing anymore, he complains, "but just a big lawsuit."
Still, when Jack thinks the evils of his former occupation can be cleaned up by appointing a czar-someone like judge landis, who runs organised baseball, there is room for doubt

Jul 22, 1966 - Boxing is dead no question in Jack Dempsey's mind the fight game is dead there is no fight game to day the former champion said there never will be again.

May 22, 1965 - Boxing is dead not just in Boston but everywhere. Former heavyweight champion Rocky Marciano gave that opinion in an interview recently with the Boston Traveler.

Apr 10, 1941 - They've been saying for. years that boxing is dead. Well, with the 52.000-odd gate for tho Joe louis-tony Musto fuss In St. Louis Tuesday night, the fight game neared the million-and-a-half dollar mark for the nation's major attractions In this indoor season

May 26, 1965 - "I said boxing is dead, and I guess it's true," said Rocky Marciano sadly. "

"Dec 9, 1903 - Whether the time honored sport of boxing is dead or only sleeping will probably be demonstrated this month so far as Los Angeles is concerned and the Coliseum Athletic Association which has now completed an uptodate."

"Jun 15, 1906 - Jim Neil Declares Boxing Is Dead in New York"

"Jun 1, 1923 - Boxing Is Dead Sport, Says Chicago's Mayor Chicago, May 31. -- Boxing "is a dead sport," Mayor William 13. Dever declared tonight when informed that James Mullen, promoter of. lust Tuesday's engagement between Benny Leonard and Pinkie Mitchell, which ended in a fist fight be- tween ... "

Jun 2, 1942 - Promoters gen erally hold the view that due to In creased taxes they cannot afford "cuts" to that therefore boxing is dead.

Nov 29, 1943 - Others say, yeah, boxing is dead game; it smells like dead game that been lying under the sun for . The optimists and well-wishers that boxing has lost its champs and stars, but that there are still good fights to be seen.

1957- wrestling promoter: I know what this is all about," he declared. The commission is running In the red because boxing is dead and it wants to tap some of the gates we're getting.


Jun 15, 1957 - WHO SAYS BOXING* i IS DEAD. Yesterday morning s sports pages in TV TaimuNz were about the liveliest we have been

un 22, 1960 - Don't tell me boxing is dead. HARRY KECK All it needs is for the people be as honest with themselves in their appraisal of it as they insist that boxing be. For every Jake lamotta in boxing there are thousands of well-meaning boxers, managers and promoters who are on the level and

1962 - Boxing is dead in Baltimore It is almost dead everywhere

Dec 18, 1962 - Boxing is dead or dying in many parts of the world, but in Italy it is a fact.

Jun 9, 1963 - THE many sports fans who believe that boxing is dead or dying can get the argument of their lives by looking up HerbertBuddy

Jan 7, 1965 - Unless something is done very soon, boxing is dead. "Right now there s too much politics in the various commissions. They mean well, but they don't know what they re doing

Feb 3, 1965 - But after what this one did, don't listen to arguments that boxing is dead. The paying public wants live fights so badly that the Garden sold out days ahead of the fight.

May 28, 1966 - Some say boxing is dead If so its ghosts certainly are kingsized


1969
Jun 17, 1969 - Don't you believe those stories that boxing is dead. The heavyweight fight between Jerry Quarry and Joe Frazier next Monday night has captured the fancy of the fight mob. It looks now as though it will do an 800000 gate at Madison Square Garden, the biggest indoor take in history.
(nice to see promoters haven't changed either)


1969
Jun 17, 1969 - Dies that boxing is dead. The heavyweight fight between Jerry Quarry and Joe Frazier next Monday night has captured the fancy of the fight mob. It looks now as though it will do an 800000 gate at Madison Square Garden, the biggest indoor take in history.

un 20, 1969 - If boxing is dead, as a few allege and suspect, then Madison Square Garden on Monday night will be the scene of the liveliest wake since our "byes" in Canaryville said farewell to Nuts Nolan.

Feb 4, 1974 - The evidence says boxing is dead.


Aug 4, 1974 - Anyone who says boxing is dead is speaking and thinking in cliches. As the new president of the Garden, Mr.' Coheri should realize that he is now in show business, Boxing does not so much need a "bottom-line" executive as it needs an imaginative promoter and showman willing to take

Oct 31, 1974 - With Muhammad now unchallenged at the top, the dimwits again will chorus that boxing is dead. They've been saying this since before Sports Illustrated began investigating a fix in the Cain vs. Abel match. If boxing has been dead, you ve been sitting in on the longest wake in history

Nov 27, 1975 - "Each year the new people up here keep telling me boxing is dead but they don't seem to realize that boxing never before had three heavyweights like Ali, Prazier and Foreman at the same time. The new people keep talking about the good old days in boxing

Jun 15, 1976 - They say boxing is dead They say wrestling is dead I predict we will have a bigger crowd than at any of my fights They say it s dead Well rm the resurrector The Resurrector Well have a big crowd The Asian world The karate world The judo world The Bruce Lee world Pleeasse get your ...

1977 - . I have news for Lea Boxing is dead with him.

1977 - says Ali "although I might like to be a lecturer " If, as claims, "boxing is dead when I'm not involved," what will happen to the sport when he does finally retire'



Relax with the imminent death of Boxing scaremongering folks

 

People are high on UFC but they forget that MMA was huge in Japan & when Pride went under so did MMA while Inoue is taking Boxing to new heights in Japan

That is the problem when you tie up the sport & promoter, it works great so long as the promoter is doing well. Many casuals will tell you they watch UFC not MMA & far more of them know who Dana White is vs those who know Eddie Hearn or Arum

I would rather have people know about the fighters

Japan produced Inoue (& Nakatani, Teraji, Ioka), it hasn't produced another Pride FC:

Inoue floored Donaire with a right in the first round, and in the second destroyed him with a flurry of left hooks, with the referee calling the fight at the 1:24 mark. With the victory, Inoue became the first Japanese champion recognized by three of the world's four major sanctioning bodies for pro boxing -- the WBA, IBF and WBC.

Amazon's Prime Video streaming service broadcast the match live, attracting on the day the most views of all its programs -- including movies and drama -- and demonstrating that even a bantamweight bout can be a huge draw.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Sports/Japan-s-Naoya-Inoue-destroys-boxing-stereotypes

 

True. The waffling of Boxing stars has definitely impacted things. Look at Fury saying he has no need to ever fight Usyk despite it making him undisputed, imagine if the Kansas City Chiefs declined to play a team in the Superbowl as they say it wouldn't be worth their time haha

 

Boxing has shot itself in the foot by not having a unified commission with a single commissioner, and no promoters. Imagine the great fights we'd see and would have seen had fights been made according to official rankings and not by promoters. Imagine how accurate the rankings would be and would have been had the rankings been made by commission members who used actual facts and statistics to rank fighters rather than moving someone up artificially in the rankings just to get a fight made. And the list goes on and on.

Showtime has been mostly out of the business for a while, only broadcasting a few fight cards/year. Even though it was still far from perfect, I'll always miss the days of HBO and Showtime controlling the sport mostly. Those were my prime viewing days as a fan, and the best fights I've ever seen were always either on HBO or Showtime.

 

Boxing is dead. It's a small niche sport, at best. I've been following the game since the late 70s. It's over! The sport has never been in worse shape. I've been to the gyms in Vegas. It's getting so thin that there are almost no competitors left. The guys that do compete are broke outside of the top few guys. Even this forum, I started coming here 20 years ago. It's also down to nothing.

 

Will officially shut down by the end of the year. Sad to see Showtime go.

https://www.badlefthook.com/platfor...boxing-shut-down-end-of-2023-boxing-news-2023

 

Oh no, who could have possibly foreseen the fall of an outfit that gave us mismatch after mismatch with minimal actual promotion (beyond some Damian Lillard tweets) and constantly denigrating and trashing genuine opposition who they refuse to fight (Anthony Joshua, Inoue, Crawford), only for when they finally DO decide they have no choice but to fight those guys the Showtime/PBC dorks get absolutely spanked?

How could this business model of putting everything behind PPV walls and asking fans to foot the bill fail? How did protecting the Mayweather 0 without the Mayweather work...not work?

Showtime sucked, PBC sucks, and now they'll be on a streaming service they denigrated for years. I'd say enjoy being on "Deadzone" but they are such a cancer they'll probably kill them, too.

 

I agree with everything you just said and would like to add...

This content is protected

They deserve it.

 

Imagine watching Big Time boxing on Amazon Prime. Lol

 

Hey, the Japanese seem happy with it

I say bring on the Amazon deal. Largely because I already have Amazon and it would be cool not having to pay for another service