Showtime following HBO into Bolivian (discontinuing boxing programming in 2024)

Yes, we'll see who is right when 2024 rolls around and if the outlet that signs PBC announces their boxing schedule and it ONLY consists of two Canelo PPVs and two Tank Davis PPVs.

I'm sure that's exactly what's going to happen.

 

Yes, NBC has no interest in PBC fighters because they have the Dan Azeez contingent in their back pocket and his fans locked in.

I'm sure, you're right about it all. Because American fight fans just can't get enough of Dan Azeez.

 

I was ridiculed by some for forecasting the demise of the sport of boxing, but its happening isnt it.
At last people are saying Enough is Enough we are tired of being conned. Supposed ATG champions refusing to fight their legitimate contenders & if they do the contenders are given the shaft. Canelo is supposedly the undisputed 168 champ but refuses to defend against Dmitry Bivol @168. His excuse was The WBC wont sanction a Russian fighting for a WBC title. But guess what?? $$$$$ talks & the WBC lifted the ban ROFL
Since then the Ginger Nutt refuses to mention Bivol's name. He may as well come right out & admit he knows he cannot beat Bivol even in Vegas where he was bullet proof for years
Oh for a real; FIGHTER !! with a real set of cojones like it used to be to be the Champ

 

If Amazon "wins" the "bidding war" (lol) that's exactly what will happen, which is just one reason among many I hope they go to DAZN instead. Hey, maybe you can post a few more eye-roll emojis. That will take the place of all those PPV buys they needed to avoid this situation to begin with.

 

Clearly, that's what they think. Otherwise, they would be, guess what? Bidding on PBC.

You are exceptionally bad at this.

 

If so anyone that buys them are crazy. Neither will fight their legitimate contenders. Had to laugh Floyd claimed on FB he could still beat Pac anytime anywhere. But when Pac answered him with OK lets do it Floyd went silent ROFLMAO

 

They do? You actually think NBC wants Dan Azeez over Canelo? Over Wilder?

Have you ever bid on something? You do understand one costs a lot more than the other, right?

You know nothing about this at all.

 

I think that dealing with PBC nonsense that leads to low-viewed shows that damaged the reputation of many of their fighters led to people who have previously experienced it not wanting that headache ever again, which is what this conversation is about; PBC's practices making their product pure audience repellent. Whether BOXXER will be worth it in the aggregate is another conversation entirely (I have my doubts because I truly feel boxing needs less exclusive promoter/network deals not more but we'll see).

But holy crap you had the audacity to mention Wilder and Canelo like they are even remotely the same beast. Wilder's had what, 30 seconds of ring time in two years and was only an 'attraction' during that glorious Fury trilogy that everyone admits lost money for everyone involved? Yup, totally the same thing as having the biggest draw in the sport.

Have you ever bought a PBC show? You understand if you bought some they wouldn't be bid on, right?

I know that Amazon is only interested in big-money acquisitions like Canelo and Tank('s fake rep), something you seem to be unable to accept because you think PBC is this great boxing success when it has been anything but. Pray that DAZN gets the deal and is able to consolidate the boxing market to give it the shot in the arm it needs State-side.

 

Well, what you "think" isn't based in reality.

NBC didn't drop Boxing. PBC stopped putting fights on NBC. They were putting fights on Fox, Fox Sports 1, ESPN, CBS, Showtime, NBC, NBC SportsNetwork, Spike and Bounce, they were flooding the market with fights. They were sued by the other promoters for taking all the time slots on the other stations.

The largest ratings any boxing match has gotten on network television in the United States this century was Errol Spence vs. Bundu on NBC was also the last PBC boxing match shown on NBC.

6.3 million viewers tuned in.

PBC boxing on NBC literally finished with the highest rated boxing broadcast on network TV this century.

So your ludicrous statements about NBC and boxing are just made up in your mind.

Franky, I'm tired of talking about it. Because I'm giving facts and you're talking about "what you think." And what "you think" is wrong.

When you used to have to PAY companies to distribute your product and now global companies are competing against each other to PAY YOU to distribute your product ... you are a success. That's just a fact.

If you don't understand that, I hope you don't have any business partners.

 

Boxing been having problems for awhile now and pretty soon is going to be pretty much done. You know there is a problem when the OLYMPICS basically do not want the sport anymore.
You have a fat slob basically as heavyweight champion who defends his belt not against a contender but an MMA fighter.
You have middleweights who basically enter the ring as cruiserweights.
Every other week someone is getting busted for PEDS,
You have like 12 different champions in each weight division.

 

I posted this in another thread but I'll post this here.

It's funny ...

More fighters are making more money than they've ever made in their lives ...

We're seeing more unifications than were seen in decades ...

The top fighters in MMA want to become boxers ...

More new fans are coming into the sport than they have in decades ...

New streaming services are popping to offer any fight you ever want to see anywhere in the world ...

And two heavyweight champions are set to split a $100+ million purse in a final unification.

And now, with the Olympics dropping boxing, we'll probably get more polished fighters turning pro than they have in forever.

WTF is dying?

Actually, what's dying is probably the Olympics. The entire nation of Russia was banned from the Olympics a couple Games ago for a national PED scandal. Flag football is an Olympic event at the next Olympics. What's so great about Olympic boxing again?

Amateur boxing isn't professional boxing. The people complaining there's no boxing at the next Olympics probably couldn't name the last five Olympic boxing matches they watched live.

Bring on all the great amateurs and welcome to the pros.

 

It is vital to have a healthy amateur boxing program for kids and especially kids who want to eventually turn pro.
Almost all the top boxers who were top pros were stellar amateurs and there is a reason for that.

 

Given what I think is based on, "what happened" very much unlike you...yes. Yes it actually it is.

Yes they did you absolute mongoloid because otherwise they would have still had boxing on all this time.

A generous take on relationships that ended in pathetic whimpers of Lara fighting nobodies in front of empty arenas to none of those "millions of eyeballs" you keep citing one fight as an example of.

So. ****ing. What?!

You keep bringing this up like it isn't a shining example of how far PBC has fallen due to its own incompetence.

Plant got 1 million-plus with Truax. Shakur Stevenson has been doing 1 million+ views for several fights. Lomachenko and Teofimo got over 4 million-plus for their fight. If you put on meaningful fights between perceived evenly-matched fighters on a regular basis, you are going to get big numbers. That isn't some magical formula that PBC discovered, but it is one they walked away from. That is the whole crux of PBC's problem, and why none of those networks were sorry to see PBC go, or kicked them to the curb, or however you want to phrase it to make yourself feel better about going from being virtually the only visible game in town to now the only one without a platform.

If my statements were ludicrous they'd either A) Still be on NBC and/or B) NBC wouldn't have waited until all these years later to get back into boxing. With a BRITISH outfit, despite PBC being available.

Frankly, I'm getting sick of you dancing around the issue by giving me irrelevant "facts" about past success that only highlight the present failures. Spence vs Bundu had 6 million views? They could have had 6 billion and it wouldn't change the fact that here in the present they have maybe 50,000 people willing to pay money to watch Wilder, Benavidez, and Plant, three of their most prominent "stars".


They have had an almost unwatchable product save two commodities. Unless they are forced by circumstance, PBC refuses to put their fighters in the ring against evenly-matched competition - even if it is in-house competition like Plant and Benavidez!!! - led to fans getting sick of their crap, led to Fox and Showtime not wanting to foot the bill, led to excess PPVs that got shoddier and shoddier, and led to them being homeless today, where they will either have Amazon host the remaining fights of their Canelo deal and maybe a Tank Davis card or too before they realize the utter fools gold he is OR end up on DAZN where hopefully more competent people will call the shots.

But keep citing some rating of some fight from way back when; I'm sure it will be relevant on something besides a trivia game. You are wrong. You have been wrong. You and yours were wrong about Wilder, you were wrong about Fulton, you were wrong about Spence. You were wrong about PBC being healthy and fine (otherwise they'd still be on Fox, let alone Showtime) and you are wrong now. You'd think you would get tired of it.

 

No vital amateur programs were shut down.

ONE tournament that lasts for two weeks every four years was shut down.

The World Amateur Championships just became the biggest amateur boxing tournament in the world. And that happens every two years. Not every four.

 

Olympic boxing is pretty serious. USA boxing just skipped the world Amateur championships.