Wladimir or Holyfield?

Holyfield who fought Ruiz and Rahman was still hanging well with ‘contenders’ and around that time Wlad was getting upset by total ham and eggers, so there’s actually a question of who would have won, and Wlad beating Holyfield would’ve have counted for something!

 

Holyfield. I rate Wlad (slightly) higher overall though. Evander always had that 'one or two fights away from losing the title' look about him, usually regarded as vulnerable 'champion'; yet at the same time, was definitely a 'never ever write him off' challenger.

 

Nice. I guess that really does show the value of Wlad's wins over Byrd and Ibragimov, who both spanked Holyfield.

 

Holyfield, obviously.

Wlad's ledger is dull as dishwater (but better than Vitali's).

Holyfield rates higher as well... ..."To win without risk is to triumph without glory." – Pierre Corneille

 

Well in the video game industry The Real Deal Holyfield wins.
Shout out to Sega Genesis!

 

I actually went through both resumes and here's how I had it:
Wladimir Klitschko:
Quality wins: Axel Schulz (83), Chris Byrd (85), Francois Botha(78), Ray Mercer(79), Jameel McCline (80), Samuel Peter (86), Chris Byrd (87), Calvin Brock (83), Ray Austin (77), Lamon Brewster (80), Sultan Ibragimov (88), Tony Thompson (85), Ruslan Chagaev (88), Eddie Chambers (82), Samuel Peter (84), David Haye (90), Tony Thompson (83), Mariusz Wach (77), Alexander Povetkin (91), Kubrat Pulev (89), Bryant Jennings (83)
Quality win total: 21
Average value of quality wins: 83.71
Big 3: Alexander Povetkin (91), David Haye (90), Kubrat Pulev (89)

Evander Holyfield:
Quality wins: Pinklon Thomas (82), Michael Dokes (84), Adílson Rodrigues (82), Alex Stewart (79), Seamus McDonagh (78), Buster Douglas (85), George Foreman (88), Larry Holmes (89), Alex Stewart (79), Riddick Bowe (92), Ray Mercer (89), Bobby Czyz (76), Mike Tyson (93), Mike Tyson (88), Michael Moorer (87), Vaughn Bean (75), John Ruiz (86), Hasim Rahman (83), Lou Savarese (77), Francois Botha (77), Brian Nielsen (76)
Quality win total: 21
Average value of quality wins: 83.10
Big 3: Mike Tyson (93), Riddick Bowe (92), Ray Mercer (89)
Note this is only looking at Holyfield's Heavyweight run not his cruiserweight run so overall they're pretty similar but I would probably give the edge to Klitschko just because he had less losses, was the best boxer of his era, and more dominant on by my view his average wins were better.

 

Holyfield easily.

 

Bowe and Haye being separated by only 2 points? Not sure about that one man.

 

To me, this is even more illogical. For the undefeated Bowe 92 points, and for 1996 Tyson 93 points.

 

Tyson was still pretty good in 1996 and it was a pretty good dominant win. Part of my ranking is how dominant a win it was the reason it was lower is because it was a close competitive fight that could have gone either way

 

I'm not just looking at quality of win but also how dominant of a win it was while Bowe is obviously better then Haye, Wlad completely dominated Haye while Holyfield won a close decision

 

Holyfield is an easy choice for me

 

I favor Vlad, but I understand that Holyfield has a strong argument. I can’t, however, picture Holyfield putting together a long string of defenses….he was never consistent. Personally, I think Bowe beat him three times, Lennox twice, Ruiz twice. Only Ali has had more excuses made for him. Head to head I think Vlad knocks him out, too.

 

The quality of opposition is intrinsically linked to a perceived level of dominance, surely?

Wlad's numbers, therefore, could be considered as being propped up significantly, due to his poorer level of opposition and, in turn, a perceived level of dominance.

This is a fairly obvious flaw in whatever system you are attempting apply here.

A case in point is the relative proximity of Wlad's Haye win to Holyfield's wins against both Bowe and Tyson. Haye nowhere near reached the level of performance and credibility that Bowe and Tyson did. That you score Wlad's win against Haye higher than Holyfield's second win against Mike Tyson is more than a little questionable.

Also, if your approach is based on both the quality of the win and "how dominant a win it was" then how does Buster Douglas (Holyfield W KO 3) sit 4 points lower than Wlad's win against unproven to this day Pulev?

I think your system needs a little work before it could be reliably used to draw any vaguely meaningful conclusions.

 

Holyfield by an absolute mile. Every day of the week, and twice on a Sunday.