Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury's consistency in his performances is crazy.

    Tonight was the epitome of nothing left in the tank.

    Could have plucked Larry Holmes from ringside to do the job properly.

    People make excuses that he didn't train properly...but he did. His elbows are clearly an issue area again.

    Both Fury & Usyk are going to make each other look shot to pieces. Going to be an ugly messy and probably close fight.
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do agree, I don’t think Fury is shot though, I know that’s just speculation, but he’s 35 at heavyweight, and looked good in his last few fights, I agree that it’s the wake up call he needed, I think Ngannou had immense self belief and Fury definitely overlooked Ngannou, which is obvious with him scheduling the Usyk fight after the Ngannou fight before he’s even fought Ngannou, I also believe he was overlooking Usyk before this because he’s a small heavyweight.
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The difference between Ngannou and Usyk is exactly 2cm., aka nonexistent. Usyk is strong as bull, as guys like Dubois and AJ couldn't move him at all, and couldn't do a s**** in the clinch.
    Ngannou is a static robot with zero movement and zero footwork and speed. Usyk is going to toy with Fury and will land on will.
    Usyk has insanely powerful jab and his back overhand is super fast and it's powerful enough to hurt most, and especially this glass jaw bum Fury.

    As far as Ngannou goes, you are talking about a guy that was making his boxing debut, hasn't been boxing for 2 years, and was coming after knee surgery. And Ngannou power is beyond overrated, especially in the boxing ring.

    Fury lost to a f**** MMA guy with 0 boxing fights, who is past his prime, and was inactive for 2 years.

    Fury has exactly zero chance against the elite, and that's not just Usyk, but AJ, Zhang, etc.

    But people can keep dreaming. I have said it for long time, there is a reason Fury is fighting the likes of Chisora and Ngannou.
     
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  4. Boxingiq2020

    Boxingiq2020 Active Member Full Member

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    .Who won the fight?
    .Rematch?
    .Were you impressed with Ngannou?
    .Does this change your thoughts on Fury vs Usyk?
     
  5. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury vs Usyk will not be taking place in December.

    The man who has defended his WBC title twice in the last two years (one of which was against an unworthy opponent) has just said he is going to have 'a long, hard rest'.
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    In what? A pie eating contest? Nah, I'd make Fury a definite favourite there.
     
  7. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ngannou is a very hard puncher and his physicality was what was giving him most of the issues, he could bully Fury, Usyk will be on back-foot and Fury won’t be made to exert as much as he did in this fight, a physical presence in front of you forces you to work harder than you want to, Usyk will have to outbox Fury as Fury won’t gas, also Fury has much better survival skills than Joshua who got hurt several times against Usyk and he managed to survive, he also has a basic defence and Usyk was able to tee off.
     
  8. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    I think it is finally crystal clear that boxing together with its fans has an extremely arrogant attitude towards MMA ans other striking sports. Mcgregor and Nganou have now shown that the best strikers in MMA can definitely hold their own against the boxing elite, which to be honest makes the sport somehow obsolet.
    Boxing is a thing of the past, a rather big 18 year old with 3 years experience in K1,Bjj and wrestling would literally kill a prime Tyson or prime Ali. This sport is just antique
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury with 1/2 weeks rest then back into camp?

    He'll probably come out looking even worse if that's possible.

    That body is finished. Usyk has been hiding his ailments really well and has life but it will still show in that fight.
     
  10. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    That's it.

    Sadly Usyk won't get the credit after he unifies the titles. Cause Fury's stock has dropped hard after tonight's performance.
     
  11. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    I've seen a lot of comments saying that Fury didn't train properly and didn't take the fight seriously.

    Fury himself said before and after the fight that he took the fight very seriously and had a 12 week camp. After the fight, Fury offered no excuses other than Ngannou was a good fighter and better than he thought.

    Why do people believe that he didn't train properly or take the fight seriously?
     
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  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on his performance against Fury and how he managed to arguably beat him would you want to see Ngannou in another boxing fight? Do you think he has a shot against any of the other top HWs?
     
  13. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest by the time the fight happens im not sure neither one is truly top 2 in the world anymore. Both are slipping and looking vulnerable.
    Usyk may be the hungrier fighter and at this point i would probably bet on him.
     
  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Uhm, are you saying Usyk is a harder puncher than Ngannou ? lollll!!

    There was good reason Fury was shitting himself whenever NG budged.
     
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  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, I want to see him against Bakole, Ajagba, Makhmudov, Zhang, Joyce, Wilder or Joshua.

    Was going to say Whyte, but if Dillian gets caught with that same uppercut from hell that took out Overeem it'd be a week before his head hits the back rows.

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