Is Tyson Fury Still A H2H Goat ?

So much interpreted from so little. This was very likely treated as an exhibition by Fury and i highly doubt he put in at training anything like he would for a Usyk. Reputations seem to come and go in 47 minutes flat in the current climate.

Fury loves a good troll. He's been trolling people for years. All through his post drugs comeback people have claimed he's shot, he's not the same, he's done, his injury going into Wilder 2 was going to do him in etc etc etc. He's done pretty good for himself really. Until i see him struggle and look terrible in a title fight i'm going to assume he's still travelling ok. He could well have hit the wall as he's getting toward that potential stage but he could well turn around and see Usyk off too.

 

Couldn't agree more with this^ JT.

Tonight was a case of 'when a circus act [almost] goes wrong'. Fury was, in the main, absent from that fight.

I'm also open to the idea that Fury is at the end of the road, but I'd prefer to see him in a World Championship bout against a top-end operator before taking a view. Either way, writing the book and drawing definitive conclusions on Fury's career from this fight is a little short-sighted.

 

the delusion in the post is nearly unbelievable. Fury made himself a fool in front of the word, there was no trolling here. He looked atrocious against a rank amateur, I love Ngannou, but he didnt have business beating the "heavyweight champion" like this, its disgraceful. Fury blew his reputation with this fight, i cant think of any time the legitimacy of the sport and peoples love for it has dwindled so much after a single fight.

Fury's stock is at an all time low, this wasn't a circus act, a gimmick, or an exhibition. The reality is Fury got rocked and put on a very poor fight. This should've been a clinic with Fury carrying Ngannou. If anything

NGANNOU CARRIED FURY LMAO

 

Boxing is a niche sport. Tyson Fury is a great athlete in boxing, not many guys box. Ngannou was ufc champ and did not have much experience, so he has proved himself to be a great athlete because in both sports he was at or near the pinnacle with little experience .

Normally great athletes get involved in other sports mlb, nba, nfl, nhl. If Ngannou was born in North America he would have been one of the better ones, great athlete.

If they have a rematch Ngannou I would favour because he did so much with so little training. He is probably one of the top boxers In The world already. Too bad he is in his late 30s.

Tyson still is a great hth boxer. But what we relearned today is that a great athlete can pick up the sport fairly fast Foreman, Marciano, Sergio Martinez to name a few.

 

Quoted for posterity.

You've got way too much emotional investment going on. Over in general you've actually started a thread -

Does anyone now recognize Ngannou to have taken the belt from Fury, if you believe that Ngannou won?
Or do you ever believe in the future we will look back and identify Ngannou as the current lineal?

In a 10 round fight with no title on the line? LOL

Via a decision that was given to Fury.....

You've also started a thread in classic about whether the legitimacy of boxing has ever been so doubted and questioned.

You're way too triggered.

 

Sure he is still a H2H. He had a bad showing it happens.

 

it was a question. I dont think Ngannou holds the belt but i dont think its outrageous to ask if some people find this to be such a robbery that it comes to be discounted and people view Ngannou as the lineal as outrageous it is. The lineal belt was on the line.

Theyre both threads and questions. I think its funnier than anything, not a big fury guy, dont watch mma. You can attack my threads but the result is all the same that the concensus is Ngannou was robbed and if that is the case a lot of people may come to question if he has a legitimate hold or chance of getting the lineal title which- was on the line- idk what youre on about because this was an officially sanctioned bout and the lineal can never not be up for grabs if the holder fights any bout.

 

i can totally get what you mean though, it looks pretty triggering, and honestly it was just more shock. this is our 9/11 after all

 

If Ngannou had been born in Georgia instead of the Sand Mines of Cameroon, he'd have gone into football and never would have thought to enter into combat sports as a profession. He's a genetic freak.

 

On these forums you take the "best" version of Fury for H2H and therefore yes, the best version of Fury is indeed a H2H menace to anybody. In reality a fight between Fury and whoever has only a 20% chance of being a good version of Fury. It's the Buster Douglas syndrome.

 

Yeah, he picked up mma very quick. And now he has nearly fought Fury to a draw with not much training in boxing. He basically has the type of genetics to be one of the best In a high profile sport .

 

Just how big a robbery did you have it? When has the linel title every changed hands to the adjudged loser?

I'm only scrutinising your thread because you stated the delusion in my post was nearly unbelievable. One of the best posters in here had already said he agreed with every word. There's every chance Fury barely trained and that's very likely reflected in his weight.

 

It's all good mate.

 

Ngannou made his debut in pro boxing but he trained boxing his whole adult life.
It's time for boxing purists to get that, that MMA fighters are fighters. This was not a nascar driver getting in the ring and fighting, it was a pro fighter against another pro fighter.

 

Not to take issue with your post, JT, but here’s the thing about these reactions - on the one hand it’s a symptom of the times and the phenomenon of social media blowing things out of their proper proportion so I think there’s some of that going on in a lot of these posts (the ‘this is our 9/11’ comment made by one poster - consider me ‘triggered’ by that)…

…But, when you do everything to avoid not only fighting your best available competition (while talking **** about everyone) but also not fighting very often at all, then take the low road by facing a non-boxer in a pseudo exhibition fight and perform poorly, is it any wonder Fury gets it with both barrels from boxing fans?

The reaction to all this will die down, it will be seen with a bit more perspective but people are rightly pissed off with Fury’s antics (not that he cares, trolling personality that he is - another symptom of our current times) and are having a bit of a vent at him. He’s brought it on himself.